Monday, November 11, 2013

Something is not “Right” between the Conservatives and the Republicans in New York State

Relationship between the GOP and the Conservative Party is an abusive one  —  And it’s the Conservative Party that is the repeat abuser

There are too many threats, intrusive behavior, contradictions and coverups between these parties for the relationship to go on  —  It’s time for a DIVORCE

There is plenty of fault to go around for both the Republicans and the Conservatives who are fully invested in maintaining whatever the current relationship is between their two parties. However, it is long past the time for REAL Republicans and REAL conservatives inside the Conservative Party to critically look at what the current relationship has done to those parties.

On the surface it is easy to figure out what is going on; and to understand why some people are opposed to any changes in the current way of doing things. The Conservative Party provides a critical buttress for many Republican office holders, who under New York's system of fusion voting benefit from having their name appear on both the G.O.P. and Conservative Party lines. That explains why the Republican office holders, who need it, not only want to keep the status quo in full force and effect, they don’t want the Republican-Conservative Party interaction examined or questioned in any way.

What is the obverse motivation for the Conservative Party ?  In other words, what is in it for the Conservative Party ?

In Brooklyn, the Republican Party and the Conservative Party share one and only one officeholder ( Right now, I am not going to deal with the fractional possessory problems related to the majority- Staten Island officials named Malliotakis and Grimm, who also clearly are Republican-Conservatives that are shared with Brooklyn).  That one Brooklyn Republican-Conservative is State Senator Martin Golden.

Can anybody explain to me how State Senator Martin Golden keeps getting lower and lower grades on the Conservative Party Ratings of NYS Senators and there is not a peep about it out of Golden’s supporters and fellow Bay Ridgeites Michael Long and Gerard Kassar, respectively the New York State and Kings County Chairmen of the New York State Conservative Party. For the year 2013, State Senator Golden was rated a lowly 56% on twenty-four (24) key votes followed by the NYS Conservative Party ( See ““Conservative Party Rates Senate Republicans too accomodating” by Jimmy Vielkind, 10/15/13, Capital – This is How New York Works
[]; see also the Conservative Party Ratings of NYS Senators at]).

Don’t even get me started on the pretzelized logic that Conservative Party leaders used in arriving at the choice of Joseph Lhota as their endorsed candidate for New York City Mayor in 2013.

Don’t be fooled into thinking that the Conservative Party is simply treating the GOP and its office holders and candidates too gently.  Inside anything that seems like a pair of soothing velvet gloves on the hands of Mike Long is a pair of balled mailed fists ready to inflict mayhem and do harm upon a weakened NYS GOP.  The nature of the NYS Conservative Party threat to the statewide GOP in 2014 is clearly laid out in Yesterday’s article in the Buffalo News (See “Paladino-style conservatism nettles GOP –  ’14 governor race criteria may result in repeat run”
by Robert J. McCarthy, 11/10/13, The Buffalo News []). Try to focus on the Conservative Party stuff, as opposed to the Paladino agenda items that would have some appeal to many conservative-minded Republicans.

Clearly, the threat posed by the Conservative Party is profound and goes to the very existence of the NYS GOP. Make no mistake, any fight for “Row ‘B’” would be a fight for the life of the Republican Party.  That the Conservative Party tried it once and are willing to try it again, shows how abusive and dysfunctional is the Republican-Conservative  relationship or deal or marriage or whatever it is. If there is any Republican who believes that it all might improve if it were to become the “Conservative-Republican relationship” are deep in the denial and delusion of a battered bride.

Wake Up !  Once things have gotten as bad as they have between the Republicans and the Conservatives, it’s time for a DIVORCE. After such a split, the GOP will be able to grow like the Republican Parties in the states where there is no Conservative Party to keep the GOP in line and under their thumb.

Who knows, some of the decent members of the Conservative Party might make good conservative Republicans when they have no place else to go.


Anonymous said...

In other words,

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...

Anonymous said...

...[a]nd for the support of [such a d]eclaration ... we [should] mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Anonymous said...

If Marty Golden is holding any political position, there will be wheeling and dealing, people being threatened and bribed, as well as Dems being put into office. We need to get him out.

Anonymous said...

Lunacy and the 1990 Conservative Party nominee for governor, Herb London

Herb London was the Conservative Party nominee for governor in 1990, and he almost defeated the Republican nominee Pierre Rinfret for second place and the Conservative's almost had Row B instead of the GOP. In 1994 he was the Republican-Conservative nominee for New York State Controller. In the middle of the 1994 campaign he switched his endorsement for governor from Republican-Conservative George Pataki to the Democrat incumbent Mario Cuomo. At the time both London and Cuomo were leading in the polls; after London's switch, both Cuomo and London lost.

Anonymous said...

2014 will be the year the Rep & Con go to the mattresses

Anonymous said...

Nice Tweet!

Brooklyn GOP Radio @BklynGOPRadio

They have an open invite! RT @russgallo: Will @senmartygolden be inviting the @boenyc to this "free" event? #shredding

Anonymous said...

Senator Marty Golden ‏@SenMartyGolden

The 61st Precinct will host a "Paper Shredding Event" on November 13, 2013 between 5:30pm and 7:30pm at 3093 Ocean Ave.

Anonymous said...

There goes Marty's staff screwing him up again....

Anonymous said...

Get rid of fusion candidacies! Get rid of Wilson-Pakulas! let's see if all of these 3rd parties can stand on their own two feet with their own candidates instead of riding coattails. Republicans will be glad to get rid of the CON-men, Democrats will be happy to rid themselves of the WFP.

Anonymous said...

Only 16 states allow for candidates to have more than one party line.

The reason is deals end up with the tail wagging the dog.

This smells like a rotten deal between Long and Cuomo.

Anonymous said...

Fewer still allow the totals for a single candidate from each separate line to be fused into a single cumulative total.

Anonymous said...

Mike Long and Governor Cuomo ?

Sounds kind of "X-Files" don't you think?