Sunday, October 7, 2018

During the debate, State Senator Martin Golden continued his very longtime pattern of lies about his positions favoring priestly pedophile protection and opposing justice for their victims



Many, many years ago Marty Golden told several bald-faced lies in the presence of three of this blog’s long-time BSIs.  That was during  >>>  a formal endorsement interview at the Fiorello LaGuardia Regular Republican Organization [of the then 49th A.D.] <<< 

  

---  ---  And those lies by incumbent GOP State Senator Marty Golden specifically related to his opposition to pedophile victims’ protection legislation that had passed the NYS Assembly [the Markey Bill],  but which had become bogged down in the NYS Senate controlled by a GOP leadership team that included Marty Golden himself  ---  ---


---  ---  Golden has not stopped lying on the issues related to justice for and the protection of the victims of pedophiles in the almost entire decade since  ---  ---



Almost lost during Marty Golden’s anti-women, anti-Democrat fireworks during last week’s Bay Ridge Inter-Agency Council on Aging debate at the Fort Hamilton Senior Citizens Center was this very important bit  >>>  ABOUT PEDOPHILES AND THEIR VICTIMS <<<  :   

“….  The two candidates also disagreed on the Child Victims Act, a bill that was drafted in the wake of the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal. The bill would ease the statute of limitations for adults seeking to bring criminal charges against Catholic priests and other people who sexually abused them when they were children. Gounardes favors it. Golden expressed concerns about it….  ‘Let’s talk about justice,’ said Gounardes, who added that many victims were abused as children and have never been able to discuss it until now. ‘We need to erase the statute of limitations.’…  Golden said that would create problems.  ‘If you get rid of the statute of limitations for this crime, you would have to eliminate it for all crimes,’  he said….”  (See “Golden, Gounardes clash in heated debate”  by Paula Katinas, 10/4/18,  Brooklyn Daily Eagle   [http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2018/10/4/golden-gounardes-clash-heated-debate]). 


Needless to say, Golden’s statement about having to “… eliminate [statutes of limitations] for all crimes….” is complete and utter nonsense;   first, this is not about a statute of limitations for criminal prosecution;  second, it is about justice, and the right to bring a claim and PROVE IT in a court of law.  Golden's assertion of his non-facts during the debate is   >>> publicly expressed and absolute lying <<<. 


Golden then compounded this lie on the priestly pedophile issue by saying that he supports “another bill’ that would to create a so-called “Child Victims Fund” for victims to seeking financial settlements stemming from past abuses.  The mere mention of that completely miss-named bill covers up the fact that it is really intended to protect the assets of the very wrongdoers that have covered up the crimes of priest, bishop and cardinal pedophiles for decades  ---  using NYS controlled governmental funds instead of the funds of a very culpable Roman Catholic Church.

All of this fits a longstanding practice by our incumbent Republican State Senator  ---  lying about his positions on pedophiles.  I know for a fact that Golden stormed out of a political meeting with Republican leaders in the then-49th A.D. several years ago exactly at the point  when he was being pressed to defend his positions in opposition to legislation protecting children from pedophiles and fostering justice for large numbers of the past victims of pedophiles. 

(My long-ago promised post about Marty Golden’s close personal identification with priestly predators has been delayed because the research for and draft of that post was kept on an old laptop that is missing  ---  unfortunately,  I have had to begin from scratch  ---  but I will have something about it before Election Day)

 

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

Uncle Marty is the oily pol in every Frank Capra movie.

Anonymous said...

Not fair to say Marty is lying.
He says lots of stupid things on lots of issues, because he is very badly informed by his staff and he is too lazy to get the details about anything.
On the pedophile priest scandal, he's still listening to Brooklyn's Bishop DiMarzio and some of Cardinal Dolan's 'experts' and lobbyists in Albany.

Anonymous said...

Uncle Marty will still trounce the little boy Gounardes. Beware of flooding from the tears of all the Williamsburg supporters when they realize they can’t vote in the district.

Anonymous said...

Did you Marty's rally? He must really be desperate.

And where was Ghorra? He didnt even show up...

Anonymous said...

Marty had a great crowd. Most importantly almost everybody at that rally lives in the district unlike Andrew’s gatherings that look like a NYC Political staffer reunion. Nobody cares about Ted Ghorra. He was probably at a country club pretending to be putting up lawn signs.

Anonymous said...

OMG, already Marty's people are throwing Ted Ghorrarhea under the bus.

So sorry Ted, we hardly knew yuh!

Anonymous said...

I'm sure that Ted, from his boutiquee 'white shoe' law firms, never bargained for this kind of 'in the trenches' treatment from Marty's crowd.

Anonymous said...

Ted is actually very lucky he was allowed to become the puppet chairman in the first place. It's because he ran the party into the ground that Gounardes has a much stronger ground game and Marty finds himself in this position.

Anonymous said...

When Ted first ran for chairman, he boasted of his past political experience by mentioning that he served on a candidate's Vacancy Committee once.

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Anonymous said...

Sad for Ted that there were a lot more Craig supporters at the rally than supporters of Ted. Liam and Ray weren't even there. Ted showed up for five minutes,almost no one recognized him and he left.

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Anonymous said...

I notice Eaton or Capano doesn't have the balls to be seen at any Golden debates

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Anonymous said...

Ray is obviously still with Golden. They were together at the Parade at 18th Avenue.

Anonymous said...

Nobody cares if Ray Denaro is with Golden or not, the point is that Marty’s fallback position for new chair if Liam doesn’t pan out couldn’t even be bothered to attend the rally much like Ted and Liam. It’s time to take back our party from these clowns before the conservative or reform parties overtake the GOP as the second largest party in Brooklyn.

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Anonymous said...

Wow the BOE hack who keeps writing the drivel as directed must be terrified of losing their job. Everybody knows that there is no such thing as Golden Ghorra forces, Golden is only left with volunteers from the Conservative party which was kind Jerry’s design when he installed Ghorra as his puppet chairman.

Anonymous said...

Ghorra has been a disaster and is partly to blame for that embarrassing article in the Daily News which revealed that the NY state senate was so desperate for volunteers for Golden that they are offering to put them up in hotels. But it's not all Ghorra's fault because he has run the party into the ground, as usual Kassar is in the mix. He hired a high priced strategist who used to work for Chuck Schumer but by the looks of it didn't do much more than answer the phones for him, and the Manhattan Republican he hired as the campaign manager never worked on a winning race let alone ran one before, the kid is in over his head but was probably hired to be Jerry's puppet and it shows. Instead of having the BOE hacks writing bullshit about Craig Eaton maybe they should give them a walk sheet and some palm cards for Golden. Then the State Senate can take the money saved on the hotel rooms and take out more print advertising for Golden. You're welcome fellas.

Anonymous said...

With 4 weeks to go the only thing that matters is the state dems are putting no money into andys folly.

Anonymous said...

With 4 weeks to go the only thing that matters is that any GOP state senate majority is about to crash and burn with Golden's loss to Gounardes.

The Daily News 'hotel rooms' article for potential 'Golden volunteers' reeks of desperation.

What have Marty and his people been doing? They have been in charge of the Brooklyn GOP for almost three years, and he's had 'control' of the Republicans at the BOE for even longer than that. Why aren't there any 'volunteers' to do simple campaign jobs, and they are not even showing up to be extra bodies at local events?

Forget Republicans, where is Marty Golden's strong 'community support'.

Anonymous said...

Gounardes is getting individual donations from Democrats all around the state. The News says that Suffolk County Executive Steve Bellone just gave him $5,000.00.

Anonymous said...

Marty has a lot more community support than Gounardes whether they volunteer or not. Gounardes volunteers look and act so out of place they act as if they’re in some kind of museum. As for Marty campaign though it’s a train wreck for sure, his supporters should be grateful for the generous financial contributions that are gonna allow him to drop over another million in the race and that Andrew not gonna raise close to what he needs.

Anonymous said...

Golden had a good crowd on Saturday and there were a lot of people from the neighborhood but who in the world waits for a month before the election to send out volunteers? His campaign office is too small anyway and closed most of the time. Even when its open the usual older than Marty staffers are there having "important" meetings and look like they want to kill you for interrupting them.

Anonymous said...

I think now that Golden has Medicated Pete's sister on the campaign, things will begin falling into place

Anonymous said...

Pete's sister, Pete's Dragon, what difference does it make? For Pete's sake!

'DROP OVER ANOTHER $$$$$ MILLION...' Are you crazy? If Marty still has that much in his campaign accounts, at least 20% of it needs to be laundered through the Manor for "SUBWAY!" into Marty's pocket.

Odd how the 'argument' is suddenly only about the money difference between the two Mr. Gs.

Anonymous said...

Gounardes is winning the street campaign big time. Andy's style is more folksy and interested in what the neighborhood people want to talk about.

Golden is losing the street campaign big time. Marty's current style is more like an imperious know it all Albany insider than a neighborhood guy.

Anonymous said...

Mallory mchamohn and Chris Mcreight are firing up the base with daily news posts like that into bay ridge talk . Keep up the great work!

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Galewyn Massey said...

RESPONSE & BACKFILL: THE "NO SURPRISES THERE, EXCEPT FOR YOUR IDIOSYNCRATIC SPELLING" EDITION

TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 3:54 AM"

--AND--

SOME RELEVANT BACKFILL ABOUT MARTY GOLDEN'S THUGGISHLY TRYING TO >>> PUT A DEMOCRAT WOMAN IN HER PLACE <<< AT A PUBLIC FORUM


I think that the correct spelling is "Mallory McMahon," co-founder of Fight Back Bay Ridge (FBBR), and "Chris McCreight," President of the Ridge Dems.

Also with respect to the lovely "Mallory McMahon," there's some very good coverage of MM's attempted public one-on-one with State Senator Marty Golden during last week's debate; and Marty Golden's very "on the record," lame and offensive attempts at putting that woman in her place >>> for her "agenda" and for being a Democrat <<< (See "No Debate: Golden-McMahon Stand-Off Comes to Fore at Ridge Forum" by Meaghan McGoldrick, 10/5/18, Brooklyn Reporter/ Politics [https://brooklynreporter.com/2018/10/no-debate-golden-mcmahon-stand-off-comes-to-fore-at-ridge-forum/]).

Anonymous said...

Yes far leftist Mallory McMahon of Fight Back Bay Ridge who brags about teaming up with Radio Free Bay Ridge to doxx Marty’s government staffers and creepy lurker Chris McCreight who’s been unhinged ever since his boss Justin Brannan sold him out to Mark Treyger for a jelly donut are doing a great job uniting Republicans behind Marty Golden. Keep up the great work.

Anonymous said...

Don't worry about it, Dems. Just keep doing what you have been doing up to now. (Be sure to pass out lots of fans at the Ragin' Muffins Pparade and at the Third Avenue Festival.)
Nobody has united anybody behind Marty Golden so far.
It's becoming more obvious every day that the wheels have come off the Golden re-election campaign; and all the king's horses and all the king's men can't put it together again.

Anonymous said...

6:32 the leftists in Bay Ridge are in rare delusional form. Andrew can't get five people from the district to volunteer. Forget about people from the district, it would become quite an accomplishment if most of the people at his volunteer events weren't political staffers. The polling for Andrew isn't good and that's why the state party hasn't pumped money into the campaign as he was hoping.. Half the Greeks are pissed at Gounardes so that well has dried up and now he's left to having wacky Mallory McMahon and creeper Chris McCreight be leading surrogates for his campaign. Have fun with that.

Anonymous said...

Liams first new Verrazano Republican Club is coming up.. Will out Capano, Eaton, Mcall club to shame of course.

Anonymous said...

If Liam does to the Verrazzano Club what he did with the now defunct South Brooklyn Conservative Club it will be another nothing burger. Another cheap attempt to stay relevant in Brooklyn while being Ulrich's boy in Queens courtesy of his job at TLC.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the South Brookltn Conservative Club?

Anonymous said...

At least Liam is allowed to speak

Anonymous said...

If Liam is allowed to speak why doesn't he tell people that he hasn't worked for Uber ever since Ulrich hooked him up with a patronage job at TLC last year?

Anonymous said...

Liam will put Capano and Eaton to shame yet again

Anonymous said...

Bob Capano and Craig Eaton are thriving in the private sector. Has Liam ever had a job that wasn't a patronage gift from a local politician? TLC now?

Anonymous said...

I dont think Capano and Eaton are trying to compete with Liam at all. They are forming a non-partisan group and Liam is forming a Republican Club.

Anonymous said...

More like Liam is forming another patronage begging organization trying to stay relevant in Brooklyn. What happened to the South Brooklyn Conservative club he started only a couple of years ago? Are they mergin officially just like Jerry merged the Brooklyn Republicans into the Conservative party?

Anonymous said...

Another Liam joke, I'm sure there will be more Upper East side Psychos at his meeting than Bklyn Republicans.

The residents on Barnwell Terrace are still waiting for their meeting with Mayor De Blasio that Liam said he got them after his bringing trash to Gracie Mansion stunt last year

Anonymous said...

Can I just say how much I love the fact that Liam McCabe works for Bill de Blasio.

Anonymous said...

Liam has over 100 people coming to his meeting..how many do Eaton and Capano have?

Anonymous said...

Ulrich got the "chit" from de Blasio for a patronage hack job which was used for Liam gig at TLC in exchange for Ulrich not supporting Malliotakis for Mayor and going with Bo Dietle who all knew could not win but only siphon votes from Nicole.

Anonymous said...

Liam will have over a hundred people at his meeting!
That is truly remarkable.

Anonymous said...

Will the Upper East Side Pyschos be there

Anonymous said...

3:37. Liam will have over a hundred people at this meeting? For real or for fake news like when Liam and his new Verrazzano Club said they would spend an entire Saturday canvassing for all the Brooklyn Republicans two weeks ago. They hyped it on Facebook and Twitter until it came time for them to canvass and not one person showed up.

Anonymous said...

Typical liam..all a dog and pony show and all know it

Anonymous said...

Politics 101: To get 100 people to physically attend a meeting, you need to call and mail over 10,000 people.

It's as simple as that. You get a 10% turnout, if you do it right.

Instead, Liam will post a video or two online, and call it a day.

Anonymous said...

Correction: to my 6:32 post -- You get a 1% turnout if you do it right.

Call/Mail 10,000 people, get 100 attendees.

Galewyn Massey said...

UPDATE & BACKFILL: THE "MORE LIES FROM OUR STATE SENATOR" EDITION

STATE SENATOR MARTIN GOLDEN WAS CAUGHT WAY OFF BASE WHEN ASKED IF HE SUPPORTED THE "CHILD VICTIM ACT" --- SO, HE WENT TO PLAY #1 IN HIS PLAYBOOK --- HE LIED.....

According to the report about the Dyker Heights Civic debate that appeared in the Gothamist, ".... State Senator Marty Golden, Brooklyn’s lone Republican Senator, claimed ignorance of the 'Child Victims Act' during a debate with insurgent Democratic candidate Andrew Gounardes on Thursday night, infuriating a rowdy crowd of South Brooklyn residents.... The bill, which has stalled repeatedly in the Republican-led State Senate, aims to extend the amount of time that adults have to report childhood sexual abuse and bring civil lawsuits or criminal claims against their abusers.... When pressed by a constituent to take a position on the bill, Golden skirted the question, claiming he didn’t know what she was referring to.... 'What is the child victims... What are you talking about? No Ma’am,' he said. What happens is there are so many definitions and so many pieces of legislation I'm not sure what you're talking about.'...” (See "State Senator Marty Golden Pleads Ignorance About Child Victims Act During Raucous Debate" by Gwynne Hogan, 10/10/18, Gothamist [http://gothamist.com/2018/10/10/marty_golden_gounardes_debate.php]).

Conveniently, Marty did remember SOMETHING ABOUT ANOTHER BILL according to Gwynne Hogan's report for the Gothamist --- ".... Golden did, however, recall The Child Victims Fund when prodded by another crowd-member. The legislation was introduced by Senate Republicans [ >>> as an alternative to the Child Victims Act last year <<< ], and [that phony 'fig leaf' bill] would eliminate the criminal statute of limitations for childhood sex abuse and create a fund for child victims from assets seized during civil forfeiture. It would not allow lawsuits against organizations like the Catholic Church for offenses that took place decades ago...." That GOP Senate bill should actually be called "The Pedophile Priest and Their Covering-up Bosses Protection Act," because that's what it does.

Anonymous said...

Andrew Gounardes said he supported parole and voting rights for Cop killers. Enough said.

Galewyn Massey said...

UPDATE & BACKFILL: THE "IT LOOKS LIKE MARTY'S PRO-PEDOPHILE PROTECTION LIES HAVE LEGS" EDITION

YESTERDAY KENNETH LOVETT GOT ONTO THIS BUSINESS WITH AN EXCELLENT COLUMN IN THE NY DAILY NEWS --- IF PIECES LIKE MR. LOVETT'S KEEP HAMMERING STATE SENATOR GOLDEN [AND THE DEMONSTRATIONS LIKE THE ONE AT GOLDEN'S OFFICE LAST WEEK ABOUT HIS INSULTING LIES KEEP RECURRING], I'M SURE THAT MR. GOLDEN WILL SOON BE ABLE TO >>> REMEMBER <<< WHICH "CHILD VICTIMS ACT" MOST NEW YORKERS ARE TALKING ABOUT.....

WHO KNOWS, MAYBE MARTY MIGHT EVENTUALLY CHANGE HIS POSITION AND GET ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS ISSUE --- EXCEPT THAT HE CAN'T, BECAUSE HE PERSONALLY IDENTIFIES MORE WITH THE PEDOPHILE PRIESTS AND NOT THE VICTIMS


It's all there in glorious black and white --- Kenneth Lovett and the NY Daily News take Marty Golden to the woodshed for lying about his hardcore opposition to the "Child Victims Act" at the Dyker Civic Association debate..... I'll let you read it for yourself; it is very worthwhile (See "State Senator Marty Golden plays dumb over Child Victims Act" by Kenneth Lovett, 10/11/18, NY Daily News/ Politics/ News [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-golden-gounardes-child-victims-act-20181010-story.html]).

AND, YES, WE HERE AT THE "... FOUNTAINHEAD" HAVE BEEN ONTO MARTY GOLDEN'S PRO-PEDOPHILE-PROTECTION LIES FOR A LONG, LONG TIME