Monday, October 15, 2018

So, what’s up with all this “Proud Boys” stuff ???


So let’s be a little provocative here:  Who is Gavin McInnes  ---  Is he a timely hero ?  ---  OR  ---  Is he a menace to society ???  ---  OR  ---  Is he just a latter day Justin Brannan,  before he cleaned up his act ?????



According to several reports,  there was a flap recently at a Manhattan GOP club that many saw as an indicator that we are slipping into a pre-revolutionary stage of things, sort of akin to the time when the Weimar government was breaking up in Germany.

This from the NY Times:   “….  A brawl outside a Republican club in Manhattan involving a far-right group and anti-fascist activists spurred calls over the weekend for an investigation into the violence and whether the police handled it properly. Some Democratic politicians, including Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, also criticized the club for inviting the founder of the far-right group, the Proud Boys….   Mr. Cuomo said he has asked the Federal Bureau of Investigation to look into the violence that accompanied Friday’s appearance at the Metropolitan Republican Club by Gavin McInnes, a right-wing provocateur. He also assigned a State Police hate crimes unit to assist with the New York Police Department’s investigation of the fighting, which he linked to President Trump….  But state Republican Party leaders accused Democrats of trying to exploit the violence for political gain….”  (See “Proud Boys Fight at G.O.P. Club Spurs Calls for Inquiry; Cuomo Blames Trumpby  Ashley Southall & Tyler Pager,  10-14-18,  NY Times/ New York    [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/14/nyregion/proud-boys-nyc-antifa-fight.html]).

THE INCIDENT ITSELF
An earlier report in the Times said this:   The Metropolitan Republican Club in Manhattan was vandalized early Friday, the police said [Photo caption]….   Three people were charged with assault in connection with a fight on Friday near the Metropolitan Republican Club in Manhattan after the appearance of a right-wing provocateur, the police said….    Doors had been defaced with anarchist symbols and windows had been broken at the club hours before an appearance there by the provocateur, Gavin McInnes, who was banned by Twitter for violating its policy on 'violent extremist groups'…   A note left with the vandalism suggested that the damage to the building on the Upper East Side was related to the appearance by Mr. McInnes, the founder of the Proud Boys. The Southern Poverty Law Center has characterized it as a hate group that has engaged in several battles with the left….   'The Metropolitan Republican Club chose to invite a hipster-fascist clown to dance for them, content to revel in their treachery against humanity,'  the note said….   (See  Fight Breaks Out Near Republican Club After Visit by Gavin McInnes, Police Say  by  Shane Goldmacher,  10/12/18,  NY Times/ New York    [www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/nyregion/gavin-mcinnes-republican-club-vandalized.html?module=Uisil]).

The Times’ report continued with this:   “….  In publicizing the event, the Republican group’s Facebook Page called Mr. McInnes a 'Godfather of the Hipster Movement.' It also highlighted that he had been 'banned from Twitter' and has 'taken on and exposed the Deep State Socialists and stood up for Western Values.'…   The event drew the attention of a group that calls itself the Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council, which urged the Metropolitan Republican Club to cancel it….”  

CLEARLY THE EVENT WAS NOT CANCELLED
Timesman Shane Goldmacher went on to say that  ---  “….   The Police Department said it assigned its Strategic Response Group to a protest at the club, which is the home to both the statewide New York Republican Party and the Manhattan Republican Party. There were no incidents reported there, the police said….   [However, t]he police said three men were arrested after officers leaving the protest saw an assault taking place at 8:40 p.m. at the corner of Third Avenue and East 84th Street, not far from the club….   Finbarr Slonim, 20, of Manhattan and Kai Russo, 20, of Brooklyn were each charged with robbery and assault. Caleb Perkins, 35, of Manhattan was charged with robbery, assault and resisting arrest, the police said.

OTHER REPORTS 
A notable alternative source on these events can be found in the “Gothamist” (See “Videos Allegedly Show Proud Boys Beating Protesters After Gavin McInnes Event At Manhattan GOP Club” by Jake Offenhartz,  10/13/18,  Gothamist Website    [https://beta.gothamist.com/2018/10/13/proud_boys_beating_video.php]).  According to this report,     “….  A mob of pro-Trump right wing extremists appear to have beaten a small group of protesters in the streets of Manhattan on Friday night, following an appearance at the Metropolitan Republican Club  by Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes….” 

OTHER OPINIONS
Since the incident(s),  many have spoken out about these goings on,  one way or another…..

For example, there were several tweets about it on the Fight Back Bay Ridge (FBBR)  Twitter site  (See  [https://twitter.com/FightBackBR], for example this R-T of a Ben Smith item on Buzzfeed [https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedBen/status/1051646068188950528]).  And Andrea Catsimatidis mentioned these matters during an interview on Fox News,  saying that she thought the Democratic leadership’s use of inflammatory language might have led to these attacks by “fueling these radicals” (See  “Calls for civility in political discourse in wake of street clashes”  interview with Andrea Catsimatidis, 10/14/18,  Fox News  [https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1051517585483882496]).

As for the questions raised in my sub-headline  ---  You didn’t really expect me to go THERE,  did you…..

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Gavin Macinnes is the only person in this century to get the NYC GOP into national news. Justin got smacked around by Frontus and convinced Gales girlfriend Cuba to bury it.

A little different.

Anonymous said...

Most of the people at the Met Club are country club Republicans who would shriek in horror at a wine stain. However not all of them are like that. Antifa ran into the ones who aren’t. It’s reallt as simple as that.

Anonymous said...

First off, vandalizing a historic building is just wrong, politics or not.

Secondly, any group of adult men in this day and age who go out of their way to label themselves a 'Male-only' organization are up to something, and it ain't good.

Thirdly, the Met Club was once the home club of Tom Dewey, who prosecuted Manhattan Bund groups back in the day. He is spinning in his grave that the likes of Ed Cox and a wealthy bimbette have turned the former home of moderate Republicanism into an outpost for Trump supporters.

Anonymous said...

11:05 what bimbette? Adele moved to DC.

Anonymous said...

First, on many matters, Tom Dewey was a wolf in sheep's clothing, in addition to being the very image and likeness of the statuette of a white-man groom on a wedding cake.
Second, at least some of the "Proud Boys" apparently went looking for trouble, and they found it.
We'll have to wait and see if each of the lads that chose to do that made a good and proper "life choice" for themselves under all the circumstances.

Anonymous said...

Justin is no Gavin Macinnes
Liam is Richard Spencer however

Anonymous said...

Justin is a fat boy.
Liam is a fake boy.

Anonymous said...

Where is Craig

Anonymous said...

Proooooouddddddddd of your boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

-hehe

Anonymous said...

Article in Kings County Politics has filing of Dr Frontus collecting a salary of $60,000 from a non profit being run out of her apartment. Frontus also spends another $41,000 on rent for non profit being run out of her living room. Didnt I see this movie?

Anonymous said...

Yea 8:16. You certainly have seen this movie before in the form of a pathetic anemic practically non existent Brooklyn GOP failing to recruit a strong candidate for a very winnable race in the 46th AD. Saperstein should be winning this in a blowout but he still can’t close the show because he is a weak candidate letting Liam and the Upper East Side psychos run his campaign into the ground.

Anonymous said...

I always liked upper east side psychos.

Anonymous said...

Thomas Dewey was a crook. Louis Bouchalter "Lepke" was facing death penalty and offered Dewey a deal. Life in prison and I'll give you every mobster in the city. Dewey left his cramped Manhattan apartment took the money from the mob and juiced Lepke. Dewey then bought a farm in Dutchess County and ran for governor. Twice. Then he ran for President. Twice.

Dewey and Luciano did business for years.

Anonymous said...

12:21 needs to separate Hollywood's version of history from the real thing. Tom Dewey was NOT corrupt, and Neal Armstrong DID plant the American flag on the moon.

Also, jogging did not become a major exercise activity in 20th century American life because of Forrest Gump (Mr. Gump, like the Luciano/Dewey story, is completely fictional).

Here's where 12:21 obviously got his degree in American history:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1997-10-09-9710090071-story.html

Anonymous said...

It is pretty funny how throughout Brooklyn and Manhattan Alexandria and Robert are known as the Upper East Side pychos..after Andrea Cats kicked them to the curb from the Manhattan GOP they are stuck working on a Brooklyn Assembly race and ruining that campaign also..

Anonymous said...

After the Upper East Side psychos lose with Saperstein they will be 0 for 3 in alittlebiver a year (losing with McCabe, Grimm, and Sap)...pretty pathetic and doubt they will even be able to get hired in Brooklyn after that since they are already banned from Manhattan..

Anonymous said...



To 2:38 AM:


They are already 0 for 3 - McCabe, Grimm and Malliotakis.

Anonymous said...

Good point..maybe o for 4, think they worked on Saperseins council race last year too

Anonymous said...

1:36 AM, you say can this and you can say that about Thomas Dewey, but he was a DA in New York. That means he was corrupt; period, end of story.

Galewyn Massey said...

BREAKING STORY: THE "BAY RIDGE LEFT IS GETTING READY TO TIE MARTY GOLDEN TO THE MET REPUBLICAN CLUB VIOLENCE" EDITION

TALK ABOUT OCTOBER SURPRISES !!! --- IS "LAW AND ORDER" NO LONGER A MARTY GOLDEN VIRTUE ???

ONE OF MY BSIs HAS GIVEN ME A HEAD-UP THAT SOMEBODY ON MARTY GOLDEN'S PAYROLL WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HAVING THE "PROUD BOYS" COME TO THE METROPOLITAN REPUBLICAN CLUB --- THAT'S BIG NEWS IF IT'S TRUE --- AT LEAST ONE LOCAL NEWS REPORTER IS ON THE STORY ALREADY


Maybe, this is what Marty Golden means by "mentoring" Andrea Catsimatidis.....

Anonymous said...

Andrea Cats should boot this Golden staffer just like she booted the Upper East Side psychos from the Manhattan GOP there

Galewyn Massey said...

BREAKING STORY UPDATE: THE "IT KEPT GROWING AND GROWING" EDITION

I HAVE BEEN INFORMARD THAT MORE REPORTERS ARE WORKING ON THIS STORY THAN WHAT I MENTIONED IN MY COMMENT ABOVE

My question at this stage is very simple --- and not related to the Proud Boys-Antifa scuffles and kerfuffles --- Is Ian Reilly, "President of the Metropolitan Republican Club," being paid by Marty Golden, and/or any committee of his ? What for ??? Does anybody think that this isn't >>> another unforced error by Golden and his team <<< ?????

Anonymous said...

Golden is going down..

Anonymous said...

I hear the whole Cats family is pissed at the Golden staffer and by extension Golden himself for ruining in one terrible decision all the great work Andrea Cats has done on building the Manhattan GOP with an inclusive image since she took over...

Anonymous said...

andrea cats is a terrible chairwoman - lets not pretend otherwise

Anonymous said...

705 am (aka Golden staffer)
I dare you to say that publicly!!!
Aahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

You are all delusional and prosecuting your petty personal feuds. This campaign is being driven off a cliff at lightning speed by Michael Tobman and Jerry Kassar. Ian Reilly tells people where to drop off the flyers minimal role.

Galewyn Massey said...

MORE BAD NEWS FOR MARTY: THE "OLA PRIEST PEDOPHILE CONNECTION REARS ITS UGLY HEAD --- AGAIN" EDITION

MARTY'S OLD HOME PARISH, OUR LADY OF ANGELS, IN BAY RIDGE HAS ANOTHER >>> NEWER PRIEST PEDOPHILE SCANDAL <<< THIS ONE ALSO INVOLVES THE DIOCESE OF BROOKLYN, BISHOP DI MARZIO AND A FOREIGN DIOCESE

Marty Golden has been a strong protector of the Catholic Church's practices and policies of SECRECY when it comes to "personnel" records and the reasons for sudden transfers of priests credibly accused of inappropriate sexual contact and conduct with children. Much of that can be remedied by a measure >>> OPPOSED <<< by Golden in the NYS Senate >>> THE CHILD VICTIMS ACT <<<

Golden's intransigence on the issue has allowed yet another priest predator to be assigned to his old parish in Bay Ridge >>> Our Lady of Angels.....

Strangely, Marty Golden appears to identify more closely with the priests accused of misconduct and their diocesan bosses downtown, who have been accused of covering it up than he does with the victims of the abuse.

Marty Golden has had actual knowledge of priestly pedophiliacs and similar malefactors among other Catholic "Religious" going back to his earlier days in OLA, reinforced with more knowledge gained while in the NYPD and during his business and political careers after the NYPD. Nonetheless, State Senator Martin Golden has been among the >>> DENIERS & FACILITATORS <<< on these matters.

Anonymous said...

GM at 8:20. You're pushing more nothing burgers based on Justin's recommendations. What a coincidence that the stuff you're highlighting this morning is the same stuff being tweeted by Fight Back Bay Ridge.

Galewyn Massey said...

RESPONSE: THE "WRONGO, NOTHING-BURGER BREATH !!!" EDITION

TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 8:44 AM"

SPEAKING OF TASTLESS WHIMPIES, I'M SURE THAT MARTY GOLDEN WILL GLADLY PAY YOU NEXT TUESDAY IF YOU ADVANCE HIM THE PRICE OF A FAKE NEWS COMMENT ON THIS BLOG TODAY.....

YOU DO KNOW THAT I CAN CHECK THE FIGHT BACK BAY RIDGE (FBBR) TWITTER SIGHT TO SEE IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TRUE OR NOT --- AND THIS TIME, IT HAPPENS TO BE >>> NOT !!! <<<

Very little of what >>> I said <<< appeared anywhere in the Fight Back Bay Ridge (FBBR) Twitterverse..... Only that Marty G, the local state senator, opposed the "Child Victims Act." There were several folks that R-Td the links to a article about the pedophile priest stuff that had appeared in the Gothamist; except I never mentioned that article in my comment, even a little bit.

However, I did read that particular Gothamist article before I did my 8:40 AM comment. That was because of a tip that I had received from someone who is also appalled at Mr. Golden's opposition to the "Child Victims Act" --- she is not with FBBR or Justin Brannan; she is a Republican activist, a former Brooklyn GOP Executive Member, and a person of faith.....

Anonymous said...

Golden is in trouble. HIS VERY OWN EMPLOYEE scheduled the event at the Metropolitan Club.

At the debate tonight, Donovan said it was a bad idea to schedule that speaker, and Molinaro also said it was a bad idea.

They are now, in essence, going against Golden.

Golden should be taken to task for this.

He is really on the ropes now.

Hope Andrew wins

Anonymous said...

I saw photos of Golden on FB...how old is he. He got really old. Guess the stress is getting to him.

Time for a change. A younger, smarter, more educated young man.

Anonymous said...

Someone put out an APB for Ghomorrha. He wasnt at the Ragamuffin Parade, wasnt at the 3rd Ave Feast, wasnt at the Congress debate tonight. Shouldnt he have been at these events as our Chair?

Your thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Molinaro and Donovan have now distanced themselves from and denounced Ian Reilly's Meeting...the same Ian who runs Golden's campaign office. What is Golden to do now? He cant denounce it because his very own staffer held the event.

He just cant win.

Maybe him and Jerry should put on their Member's Only Jackets (we saw Jerry's and we know Marty must have a matching one) and ride into the sunset!

Anonymous said...

For all the blame on poor Ian Reilly who was only hired as a figurehead, Marty Golden is either trying deliberately to lose this race or he needs to get rid of either a treacherous double dealing/or downright moron Michael Tobman. Jerry should go on a vacation or something until after the election.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone noticed Simcha Felders chief of staff was just arrested on a sex crime.