Monday, July 20, 2015

McCain tries the full "Kamikaze" to take out Trump --- Senior Senator, former GOP Standard bearer, and former POW, John McCain, decides to fully engage Donald Trump about his remarks


McCain appears on MSNBC's  "Morning Joe" program  ---  Says Trump needs to apologize to POWs, Veterans  AND their families



McCain --  after reminding Morning Joe that he had defended John Kerry from the "Swift-boating" movie -- tells series of anecdotes about real hero POWs --  Refuses to take the bait and call Trump a "Draft Dodger"



McCain also engaged Trump on the issue of what he has done for veterans



According to a written report by NBC News,  " Sen. John McCain said Monday that he does not view himself as a hero but that Donald Trump owes an apology to veterans for his comments about soldiers captured in war....   Asked on MSNBC's Morning Joe if Trump owes him an apology, McCain responded:  'No, I don't think so. But I think he may owe an apology to the families of those who have sacrificed in conflict and those who have undergone the prison experience in serving their country.' ...   'There are so many men, and some women, who served and sacrificed and happened to be held prisoner and somehow to denigrate that, in any way, their service I think is offensive,' he added...."  ( See :  "John McCain: Donald Trump Owes Vets an Apology, Not Me" by Carrie Dann,  7/20/15,  NBC News[http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/elizabeth-warren-calls-trump-blowhard-over-mccain-comments-n395146][with video link including "Morning Joe" McCain Segment).


MC CAIN'S STATEMENT FULL OF LIES AND DISTORTIONS ABOUT WHAT TRUMP SAID  --  PRAISED BY JOE SCARBROUGH AS "TAKING THE HIGH ROAD"

It's interesting that John McCain chose to show up on MSNBC to deliver severalbelow the belt shots to a current  GOP candidate for president, Donald Trump.   All the while egging McCain on to say something about how he felt about being insulted by somebody that "dodged the draft," Joe Scarborough completely let pass the fact that  McCain was completely mischaracterizing what Donald Trump actually had said.   Scaborough let McCain "set up a straw man" and generalize the argument to be about ALL veterans and POWS  --  and avoid  the fact that the remarks were directed only at McCain, himself.   Between, completely unrelated annecdotes including his reference to defending John Kerry from the  charges in the "Swift Boat" movie,  McCain indirectly pounded on Trump.   For all of that, Joe Scaborough praised McCain for "Taking the high road...."  ---  a formulation that was parroted by other at  NBC News.

Interestingly, McCain also mentioned what he has done for veterans as a congressman and U.S. Senator  ---   this was an attempt to parry Trumps more recent thrusts about McCain's letting down veterans as a part of the Washington establishment.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Someone should tell John "Traitor" McCain that you cant fool all of the people all of the time.

Fact: McCain agreed to be filmed in 32 propaganda videos for Communist government stating that bombing targets were schools and church. Move over Jane Fonda

Fact: The North Vietnamese nickname for McCain was songbird.

Galewyn Massey said...

RESPONSE: THE "OUCH ! THAT WAS HARSH" EDITION

NOT ALL SURRENDERS TO AND COLLABORATION WITH THE ENEMY IN TIME OF WAR IS A CRIMINAL VIOLATION OF THE UCMJ -- EVEN IF CHARGED, ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE ADJUDICATED -- MC CAIN WAS NEVER CHARGED

Like Bo Bergdahl, all of the circumstances of John McCain's "captivity" remain controversial.

One does wonder the real reason why John McCain says he actually thought he was going to be court martialed by the Navy upon his release by his North Vietnamese captors.

Remember the line from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence" "... Wait 'til the myth becomes history, then print the myth..."

Anonymous said...

Now hold on a minute. You are comparing McCain to Bergdahl?
This debate has taken an odd twist.
Oh. And that collaboration with the enemy crap does not sound like the stuff medals are given out for.

Galewyn Massey said...

RESPONSE: THE "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" EDITION

"ODD TWIST" --- I THINK NOT

It is completely irrefutable that John McCain COLLABORATED with his North Vietnamese captors. The Obama folks had it chapter and verse in 2008; and they backed off when it was clear that the McCain campaign was going nowhere. There are a variety of veterans advocates and veterans groups that have put out similar material -- and of course there is McCain himself, who has said he is ashamed of it.

"Anonymous said... at 4:21 PM," you are both naive and uninformed if you don't know that Bo Bergdahl and John McCain both occupy their own places on an identical collaborators' spectrum. That spectrum also has places on it for Benedict Arnold and Alcibiades (both alternatively "heroes" who became notorious "traitors" -- Alcibiades doing it habitually).

As for military medals for valorous service -- in spite of clear written standards for their being awarded -- mostly it is pfm. In addition, if the record of someone's bad behavior were purged, and they performed good service, their good acts would necessarily come to the fore.

Anonymous said...

Well put Gale. Trump has done a lousy job of spinning this but then again the latest polls have him in first place.

Anonymous said...

Trump rules. mccain is a loser

Anonymous said...

The Republicans have gone insane about Trump, whether its the other candidates for President or Rance Priebus or even Senator McCain. Getting into a pissing contest with a professional pisser like Trump makes no sense at all.

Anonymous said...

Lindsey Graham says Trump is done. Polls are Trump 24% v Graham (Mrs McCain) 1%.

Anonymous said...

Polls really do not count unless its voters in Iowa and NH around January 2016.

The political world will look very different in a few months.