Monday, August 1, 2022

What that Harvard "study" about January 6th really showed --- Probably, there was no attempted "insurrection" on January 6th.....

 

Last week the MSM was all over themselves saying that a Harvard study of what really was going on at the Capitol on January 6, 2021 was basically this:


---  "In Harvard study of Jan. 6 rioters, top motivation is clear: Trump --  The study, which was shared with NBC News ahead of its publication, logged and analyzed the motives of 417 Capitol rioters, all of whom have been charged in relation to Jan. 6"
---  "New study shows Trump, election claims were main motivator"
---  "Why Did Trump Supporters Storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6? Because of Trump, New Harvard Study Finds"


BUT  ---  IS THAT WHAT THE HARVARD STUDY REALLY SHOWED ???  

---  OR TO PUT IT ANOTHER WAY  ---  WHAT ELSE DID THAT HARVARD STUDY SHOW ????? 

 

MAYBE  ---  IT SHOWED SOMETHING MORE IN LINE WITH THIS:

---  "Harvard Study:  Only 8% of Capitol Rioters Wanted ‘Insurrection’ "


OR THIS:

---  "Jonathan Turley says:  Harvard Report Suggests January 6th Protesters Were Defending Democracy, Not Trying to Overthrow It"




The comprehensive study by Harvard University of the motivations of those who participated in the January 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol found that only 8% wanted to start an insurrection or civil war — contrary to some claims and most of the conclusions by members and some observers of the House Investigative January 6 Committee.

This is how GW University Law Professor Jonathan Turley interpreted the Harvard Study results:  "....  Harvard has completed what it calls the most comprehensive study of the motivations of those involved in the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot. Many will not be surprised to learn that most participated out of loyalty to former President Donald Trump. However, the study also found that only eight percent harbored 'a desire to start a civil war.' That is inconsistent with the virtual mantra out of the J6 Committee and many in Congress that this was an insurrection rather than a riot. Some of us (including many in the public) have previously questioned that characterization. Yet, it reflects the relatively small number of seditious conspiracy charges brought by the Justice Department...."

Turley also said this  ---  "....  There is no question that there were people who came prepared for [ ] a riot, including some who are extremists who likely would have welcomed a civil war. Yet, the vast majority of people on that day were clearly present to protest the certification and wanted Republicans to join those planning to challenge the election....  One of the key reasons for the resulting damage was the collapse of security at the Hill. The J6 Committee steadfastly refused to address the myriad of questions of why the Congress was not better prepared despite the obvious dangers of a riot (including warnings before January 6th)....  [T]here has been an unrelenting effort to make “insurrection” a litmus test for anyone speaking about January 6th. If one does not use that term (and, worse yet, expresses doubts about its accuracy), you run the risk of immediate condemnation as someone excusing or supporting insurrection. This framing also reduces the need to address the question of how this riot was allowed to spiral out of control...."

TURLEY'S CONCLUSION

Most important, is how Professor Turley concluded his analysis of the Harvard Study.....  "....   The effort to mandate 'insurrection' as the only acceptable description prevents the country from speaking with a unified voice. It clearly serves political purposes but only makes a national resolution more difficult as we approach a new presidential election."


18 comments:

  1. UPDATE & BACKFILL: THE "'FEDS-SURRECTION' NEEDS TO BE WHAT THE JANUARY 6TH THING IS CALLED" EDITION

    THERE IS A PILE UP OF STUFF ON CONSERVATIVE AND OTHER ALT-RIGHT MEDIA THAT IS SHOWING THAT A MASSIVE ENTRAPMENT SCHEME WAS AFOOT ON 1/6/2021 BY FOLKS LIKE THE FBI

    THE WORD "FEDSURRECTION" IS INCREASINGLY BEING USED --- HOWEVER, THE CORRECT WORD SHOULD BE "FEDS-SURRECTION"


    There is mounting evidence that, it was the Feds' informants and provocateurs, those that were directly influenced by them, and those under close surreptitious surveillance, who had been instrumental in breaching the Capitol and planting bombs nearby.

    When questioned about this under oath, the FBI has refused to answer, citing ongoing investigations, and non-disclosure of methods, tactics and practices in such cases.

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  2. Anyone near DC on January 6th should be in prison.

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  3. Gale in case you hadnt noticed the FBI asks the questions.

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  4. Trump 2024 is just another massive entrapment scheme.

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  5. If I wanted national news I'd turn on Fox. I come to the Brooklyn & Staten Island Independent GOP Fountainhead to read about Alex Brooks Krasy and Brian Fox and how they think walking down Third Avenue together in a big gaggle will win an election

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  6. Anyone who attended a Trump rally should be in prison.

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  7. Turley is a laughable tool.

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  8. 800 people arrested in capital riot. So far. Today a rioter was sentenced to 7 years and he wasnt even in the capital.

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  9. "Probably"
    "IS THAT WHAT"?
    "WHAT ELSE"?
    "MAYBE"
    "SOMETHING MORE IN LINE WITH""
    "Jonathan Turley"
    "Suggests"
    What a crock.

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  10. RESPONSE: THE "IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT THE EVIDENCE IS SHOWING" EDITION

    TO THE DISMISSIVE ANONYMOUS COMMENTS MADE IMMEDIATELY ABOVE BY A SINGLE OBVIOUSLY UNINFORMED COMMENT MAKER

    THESE ARE THE FACTS:
    --- The FBI has never said that it has found any evidence of a conspiracy behind the events of January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol;

    --- As late as mid-July 2022, after intensive investigation by a very partisan House Select Committee, Democrats, who have asserted that then-President Trump conspired to "overturn the election" and maintain power by creating a riot, have so far come up short, according to at least one Democrat Senator, Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.).

    --- AND --- now this Harvard Study says that most of the protesters were not "insurrectionists" bent on rebellion against the Congress of the United States.....


    It is being reported on/ by several conservative and alt-right outlets, that Harvard researchers did say that they had been surprised to find out that most January 6, 2021 protesters had been motivated by their loyalty to President Trump; and overwhelmingly most of them were not attempting to carry out an insurrection, in the way Democrats in Congress and the mainstream media have uniformly portrayed their activities at the event at the U.S. Capitol.

    The court documents, the authors of the Harvard Study said, demonstrated that --- "Trump and his allies convinced an unquantifiable number of Americans that representative democracy in the United States was not only in decline, but in imminent, existential danger.... This belief translated into a widespread fear of democratic and societal breakdown, which, in turn, motivated hundreds of Americans to travel to D.C. from far corners of the country in what they were convinced was the nation’s most desperate hour."

    THE JANUARY 6TH PROTESTERS AT THE CAPITOL WERE PATRIOTS THAT HAD COME TO DEFEND OUR DEMOCRACY NOT OVERTHROW IT.....

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  11. I'm starting a fundraiser to send Brian Fox to space

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  12. "It is being reported on/ by several conservative and alt-right outlets"
    lol

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  13. Space is too small for Brian Fox.

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  14. RESPONSE: THE "WILFULLY UNINFORMED ARE THE INVINCIBLY IGNORANT" EDITION

    TO: "ANONYMOSU SAID... AT 11:09 PM"

    LOL ALL YOU WANT... THE MEM IS NOTHING BUT THE PROPAGANDA TOOL OF THE ESTABLISHMENT "LEFT" --- IT'S NOT VERY RELIABLE --- AND BEING ASTUTE AIN'T THEIR TOOT

    There's more real news and reliable info in/ on a few days of Fox News, Breitbart, Daily Caller, and World Net Daily than a month of the NY Times, Washington Post, MSNBC, and CNN combined.

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  15. What's a "MEM"?
    What's a "TOOT"?
    The rest is hilarious.

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  16. Brian Fox is leading a diplomatic mission to Taiwan. We wish him the best. He is our leader.

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  17. Anyone who reads this blog should be in prison.

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  18. RESPONSE: THE "THANKS FOR THE HEADS-UP" EDITION

    TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 4:59 AM"

    "MEM" SHOULD HAVE BEEN "MSM & MEM"

    ON THE OTHER HAND "TOOT" JUST MEANS "TOOT"

    And you are just so cute..... To ask....

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