The bombshell report about several Pennsylvania Dioceses has opened a can of worms for Catholics across the United States --- and led to disclosures of many grave shortcomings by almost all of the Roman Catholic hierarchy, up to and including the Pope himself, in dealing with the victims and the myriad other problems caused by pedophile priests and bishops
If you perused the New York Post on Tuesday, you would have again seen several articles indicating the breath and scope of the Roman Catholic pedophile problem here in the United States and around the world --- including Pope Francis' own personal failings on these matters.....
Today's Post also did an editorial that said the time had come for the laity in the Roman Catholic Church to rise up and clean out the pedophile mess inside the institutional Church
That is certainly not what certain Catholics in the New York State Senate want to do --- instead at the bidding of New York State's Bishops and a certain Cardinal in New York City, Republicans in the New York State Senate have proposed spending public funds to pay the victims of Roman Catholic pedophile priests --- Marty Golden apparently backs this NY State Senate Republican "compromise"
On the issue of effectively purging the Catholic Church of its unique and pervasive priest pedophile problem --- most Republican State Senators are blocking the effort --- Catholics must turn on them in righteous indignation and fury and purge them from office in 2018
In Bay Ridge, Marine Park and several other neighboring communities, that means any good Catholic must become active in the removal of Republican-Conservative State Senator Martin Golden for his personal opposition to the 2018 New York State Child Victims Act, and for his support of funding the Catholic Church's program of pay-offs and coverups, now by proposing the use of public funds for the pay-offs
Even if you feel that there is some reason or justification for your continuing to support State Senator Martin J. Golden, then, at very least, you should call him and tell him to support the 2018 "Child Victims Act" [S-809].
Equally, important, tell Marty Golden to oppose the phony "compromise" bill put forward by State Senator Catherine J. Young, and other NY Senate Republicans like Marty Golden, that would use public funds to subsidize the Catholic Church's longstanding program of hushing-up the reports against pedophile priests, and trying to pay-off any victims that do come forward in exchange for their silence.
Equally, important, tell Marty Golden to oppose the phony "compromise" bill put forward by State Senator Catherine J. Young, and other NY Senate Republicans like Marty Golden, that would use public funds to subsidize the Catholic Church's longstanding program of hushing-up the reports against pedophile priests, and trying to pay-off any victims that do come forward in exchange for their silence.
The Child victims act extends the statute of limitations to for a person to file a lawsuit. There are points for not supporting this act. How does a person or instittution defend themselves against something that may have happened 20 or 30 years ago. Of course other evidence may exist to support a claim. Seems the church keeps records than the Nazis.
ReplyDeleteRESPONSE: THE "YOU DO MAKE A POINT" EDITION
ReplyDeleteTO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 10:42 PM"
YOU GIVE ONE OF THE CLASSIC REASONS FOR JUSTIFYING STATUTES OF LIMITATIONS GENERALLY. ON THE OTHER HAND, PEDOPHILIA AND THE ACTS OF PEDOPHILES BESPEAK PARTICULAR SOCIAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL HARMS AND DAMAGE THAT ARE ESPECIALLY DESTRUCTIVE TO INDIVIDUALS AND THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF SOCIETY. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH TREATING IT IN A SPECIAL WAY BECAUSE OF EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES --- LIKE A MASSIVE AND INSTITUTIONALIZED CONSPIRACY TO COVER-UP PEDOPHILIA COMMITTED BY A CERTAIN CATEGORY PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY AND TRUST --- ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS.....
In spite of an obvious typo, you were correct in pointing out that "... the church keeps [more and/or better] records than the Nazis [did]. Hence, the "church" is in a better position to defend itself compared to other defendants who might be hiding behind a much-abused statute of limitations involving past acts of sexual child abuse, pedophilia and ephebophilia.
The Church preaches eternity, but hides behind the statute of limitations.
ReplyDeleteUPDATE & BACKFILL: THE "IMPORTANT MESSAGES TO CATHOLICS IN THE NEW YORK POST YESTERDAY" EDITION
ReplyDelete... AND CATHOLICS MUST LOOK UPON THEM AS THE "WORD OF GOD" --- BECAUSE THEY ARE
WE MUST LET THE CATHOLIC LAITY LEAD THE INVESTIGATION OF THE WHOLE PRIESTLY PEDOPHILIA MESS --- AGENCIES OUTSIDE THE CHURCH MUST USE THEIR FULL LEGAL AUTHORITY AND BRING THEIR AWESOME CONSTITUTIONAL AND STATUTORY POWER TO BEAR TO SEARCH OUT AND >>> PUNISH <<< ALL THE WRONG DOERS INSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
CATHOLICS MUST HEED THE TRUTH AND THEY NEED TO BE PRAYERFUL DURING THIS CRISIS OF MORAL AUTHORITY IN OUR LOCAL PARISHES (LIKE ST. ANSELM IN BAY RIDGE) ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE CHURCH.....
Wherever the "Truth" is spoken, it is "The Word of God"; there has been much truth contained in the NY Post's editions over these last few days of August 2018 --- much of it is in the nature of "The Word of God."
The "Truth" should have far more moral force and authority upon Catholics than any of the corrupted "Magisterium" heretofore exercised on the issues priestly pedophilia by many, if not most, in the Roman Catholic cLergy and hierarchy, including the Pope and the Curia around him.
Here is one important message from God from the NY Post: "... let the laity lead the way in investigating the scandals here. It now seems Pope Francis needs to call in outside help, too. It’s long past time for the conspiracy of silence to be broken." (See "The Vatican’s Challenge" by the NY Post Editorial Board, 8/28/18, NY Post/ Post Opinion 24/ Editorial [http://nypost.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx]).
Here is another: ".... Lay Catholics should pay close attention to those who follow the truth, wherever it may lead, and tune out the [other] noise and its [false] sources. And we need to pray." (See "ROMAN SCANDALS -- Francis’ papacy is in crisis" by Sohrab Ahmari, 8/28/18, NY Post/ Opinion 25 [http://nypost.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx]).
Heed this well: "If you remain in my word, you will truly be my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.... Amen, amen, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave of sin.... A slave does not remain in a household forever, but a son always remains. So if a son frees you, then you will truly be free...." (John 8, 31 et seq.)
Saint Anselm's? That's Golden's and Eaton's parish; Gail, tread lightly.
ReplyDeleteRESPONSE: THE "NOT A WORD" EDITION
ReplyDeleteTO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 7:58 AM"
THERE'S NOTHING EARTH-SHATTERING ABOUT ST. ANSELM --- HOWEVER AT THE 12:00 PM MASS THIS PAST SUNDAY, THERE WAS NOT A WORD FROM THE PULPIT ABOUT BISHOP DIMARZIO'S LETTER CONCERNING THE MOST RECENT PEDOPHILIA REVELATIONS..... NOT RESPONDING TO THE BIGGEST SCANDAL IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT WHAT TWO PASTORS AND THEIR PASTORAL VICARS SHOULD BE DOING AT THIS TIME.....
Yes, there was a celebratory mass for the departure of Father Kull; and there was a solicitation by Deacon Patrick for the Mary Mother of God Mission Society in support of the RC Diocese of Vladivostok, in Far Eastern Russia --- however, the Bishop's letter was important enough to try to get a readable copy into the parish bulletin in two tries (neither very successful -- one being an almost microscopic reproduction); some mention should have been made about it by the pastor, MSgr. Maloney, one of the concelebrants of the 12:00 PM mass. If nothing else, somebody should have mentioned to be sure to read the copy of Bishop DiMarzio's letter contained in the bulletin about the Pennsylvania Grand Jury Report.
Gail, I can't wait for what you say you are going to write about Marty Golden's closer identification with sexual predator priests than with their victims, who were underage at the times that crimes were committed against them and concealed for years by the Church.
ReplyDeleteGolden already has done plenty on the record to make precisely that point. He has fought to maintain the status quo of secrecy surrounding pedophile priests. He also has promoted the Church's continuing strategy of stonewalling victims, using defenses like statutes of limitations to short circuit many justified claims that have real merit and are clearly catalogued in the Church's own records.
Quite recently, Golden’s own bill in the NY State Senate was passed that now enables "not for profits" affiliated with the same Catholic cabal of pedophile protectors to run "shelters" and "safe houses" for children caught up in sexual trafficking. It is a well-known fact that pedophile rings, like those known to exist untouched inside the Catholic Church, re-cycle prior young victims of sexual abuse and those trying to escape from the sexual trafficking machinery. Golden also now wants to use public funds to pay-off former underage victims as an alternative to their having to seek damages from the Catholic Church, or if they do get any award from the Church, it would be reduced by any amount received from the publicly financed fund.
What more can you add to that to show that Golden closely identifies with the people in the Church protecting the pedophiles and not with the pedophiles' victims?
RESPONSE: THE "NOT QUITE THE SAME" EDITION
ReplyDeleteTO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 3:02 AM"
YOUR STATEMENT CONFIRMS MARTY'S ALMOST TOTALLY BEING ON THE SAME PAGE AS THE CATHOLIC BISHOPS AND CARDINAL DOLAN WRT LEGISLATION TO HELP THE CHURCH AVOID ITS RESPONSIBILITIES AND FRUSTRATE THE ATTEMPTS BY VICTIMS AND THEIR ADVOCATES TO ACHIEVE JUSTICE --- THE TWO LATER PIECES OF LEGISLATION, SHOW THAT MARTY IS WILLING TO ENSURE THAT THE CHURCH'S COFFERS REMAIN MOSTLY UNTOUCHED, EXCEPT AS THEIR BALANCES MIGHT BE INCREASED INDIRECTLY BY STATE FUNDING OF THE SAFE HOUSES AND SHELTERS RUN BY CHURCH-AFFILIATED NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS
My piece will be less about State Senator Golden's formal and public support for the institutional Church, but more about his personal and psychological motivations and identification with some of the players that have been involved over the years --- certainly, going back to his days as an NYPD PO attached to an anti-vice unit, and possibly going even further back to his days in the OLA boys grammar school.
It's all Capanos fault.
ReplyDeleteRESPONSE: THE "I DON'T THINK SO" EDITION
ReplyDeleteTO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 4:31 PM"
I DON'T THINK THAT BOB CAPANO DID ANYTHING TO ENCOURAGE OR FOSTER STATE SENATOR MARTY GOLDEN'S LONG-TIME "PROFESSIONAL COURTESY" FOR PEDOPHILE PRIESTS AND THEIR VERY CULPABLE BOSSES; AND HIS VERY PROBLEMATIC LEGISLATIVE HISTORY IN OPPOSING WHAT REALLY HAS BEEN SHOWN TO WORK IN BRINGING JUSTICE TO VICTIMS, OR IN PUNISHING AND/OR EXPOSING WRONGDOERS UP AND DOWN THE LINE IN THIS PEDOPHILE MESS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, JOHN QUAGLIONE HAS BEEN ONE OF MARTY'S KEY ENABLERS IN HIS GAME OF SAYING "GOOD IS BAD AND BAD IS GOOD" WHEN IT COMES TO PEDOPHILES AND THEIR VICTIMS --- ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THAT FREAKISH, FAVORS-EXCHANGING, HEAR-SEE-AND-SPEAK-NO-EVIL ORGANIZATION THE "CATHEDRAL CLUB" IN THE DIOCESE OF BROOKLYN
The watchword here, both for Golden and now all of his insiders, is "Secrets" --- and the strategy is keeping them secret..... That includes Marty's part in a "bespoke" history of NYPD handling of pedophile priests and some other sensitive cases on the job in the day.
REVIEW: THE "BISHOP DIMARZIO LETTER ABOUT THE PENNSYLVANIA REPORT" EDITION
ReplyDeleteI HAVE PERUSED BISHOP DIMARZIO'S LETTER SEVERAL TIMES --- TO SAY IT IS A COMPLETELY INADEQUATE RESPONSE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD BE A GROSS UNDERSTATEMENT
DIMARZIO'S LETTER OF AUGUST 17, 2018 IS A HOLLOW PUBLIC RELATIONS GIMMICK, LACKING ANY DIRECT REFERENCE TO ANYTHING CONTAINED IN THE PENNSYLVANIA REPORT OR ITS CONCLUSIONS
FURTHERMORE, DIMARZIO CLEARLY TRIES TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM HIS NOW EXPOSED COLLEAGUES IN PENNSYLVANIA AND ELSEWHERE --- IMPLYING THAT HE AND HIS DIOCESE IN BROOKLYN AND QUEENS ARE DOING RIGHT BY THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ABUSE BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CLERGY THERE; AND THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING SOLUTIONS TO THE ONGOING PROBLEMS OF PRIESTLY SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN AND OTHERS
THAT, OF COURSE, IS A BIG LIE --- WHEN IT COMES TO REALLY TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS OF PRIEST PEDOPHILES, DEMARZIO IS A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING --- BOTH HERE IN BROOKLYN AND IN HIS PRIOR ASSIGNMENTS, DIMARZIO HAS BEEN A RUTHLESS STONEWALLER
ALTHOUGH BISHOP DIMARZIO DECRIES MERE "WORDS" COMPARED TO REAL "ACTIONS" ON THESE ISSUES --- IN REALITY HE HAS REPEATEDLY COME UP SHORT IN BOTH WORDS AND ACTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRIEST PEDOPHILE SCANDAL AND THE PERSONAL CARNAGE THAT IT HAS CAUSED
THE "LIST" OF PEDOPHILE PRIESTS PUBLISHED BY THE DIOCESE OF BROOKLYN A WHILE AGO WAS A SAD JOKE AT THE TIME --- IT HAS NOT IMPROVED WITH AGE --- AND THE SO-CALLED "INDEPENDENT RECONCILIATION AND COMPENSATION PROGRAM (ICRP)" FOR BROOKLYN AND QUEENS HAS DONE VERY LITTLE TO BRING VICTIMS JUSTICE, RECONCILIATION OR COMPENSATION
MY REVIEW OF THE BISHOP'S LETTER IS SIMPLE --- IT RATES AN "F" --- DIMARZIO WOULD HAVE BETTER SERVED HIMSELF, HIS DIOCESE AND HIS CHURCH IF HE JUST KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT
Maybe, that's why the monsignors and priests at S. Anselm didn't mention the letter, and reproduced it to look so small in the parish bulletin.
ReplyDeleteDiMarzio made a fortune off that real estate deal.
ReplyDeleteAnd don't forget this: "I am pleased with the cooperation of the Office of District Attorney of Kings County (Hynes) and the Office of District Attorney of Queens County (Brown)and the public recognition they have given to our joint efforts. I pledge a continuing commitment to that relationship...." Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio
ReplyDeleteWhat cooperation? What prosecutions? What Law Enforcement involving priests? WHat agreements with Law enforcement?
Is Dimarzio his maiden name?
ReplyDeleteRESPONSE: THE "TIME TO BE SERIOUS" EDITION
ReplyDeleteTO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 4:31 PM"
SOMETIMES THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR JOKES --- THIS ISN'T ONE OF THEM.....
I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE --- AND YOU SHOULD RECOGNIZE SOME OF THIS STUFF
In this part of the world, the pedophile priest problem would not have gotten this bad without >>> ACTIVE FACILITATION <<< by the NYPD, the Kings County District Attorney's Office and politicians like State Senator Martin J. Golden and many more like him.
Marty G. has been involved in this stuff for a very long time, in many different settings and roles; I'm sure it's been part of his world since he was a very young person.
Golden certainly has lived a life where "... rank has its privilege(s)..."; and he clearly continues to do so. And, if you were brought up by nuns, brothers and priests, like Marty Golden was, there is no higher rank than "priest" --- unless it's "bishop" or 'cardinal"..... Enough said for now.....
Hynes set up a special panel to find pedophile priests and after years of searching found nothing. The panel was lead by assistant district attorney Dino Amoroso. Dinos full time job in Hynes office was to raise campaign funds. Dino was known as "the inside guy". The "outside guy" was Arthur Aidala. Artie actually picked up the money.
ReplyDeleteRESPONSE: THE "DON'T LOOK NOW --- BUT A NEW YORK GRAND JURY PROBE OF PEDOPHILIA INSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS COMING" EDITION
ReplyDeleteTO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 6:54 PM"
THANK FOR ANOTHER INDICATION OF HOW DINO AMOROSO HURT THE PEOPLE OF BROOKLYN WHILE WORKING FOR MARTY GOLDEN'S FRIEND DISTRICT ATTORNEY CHARLES HYNES --- THE GOLDEN-HYNES-AIDALA CONNECTION HAS BEEN FULLY DISCUSSED ON THIS BLOG IN THE PAST
BUT TRY TO STICK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND --- MAYBE THE 62 COUNTY DA'S IN NEW YORK STATE, ALONG WITH THE NYS AG, ARE READY TO LOOK INTO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S PRIEST PEDOPHILE SCANDAL --- TAKE GRAND JURY TESTIMONY --- AND FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF PENNSYLVANIA, ISSUE A REPORT
BUT CARDINAL DOLAN AND OTHER BISHOPS IN NYS ARE ALREADY TRYING TO FIGHT THE DAs AND THE AG AND DIVERT THEIR ATTENTION FROM THE PEDOPHILES INSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN NEW YORK STATE --- THE NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ALL THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS NEED TO KEEP FOCUSED ON THE PEDOPHILE PROBLEMS INSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WHICH IS A UNIQUE INSTITUTION WITH A MASSIVE PRESENCE INSIDE NEW YORK STATE
Recently, the NY Daily News reported that "New York’s Attorney General and the state’s 62 district attorneys are poised to launch a Pennsylvania-style probe into sexual abuse by Catholic priests.... 'The horrific findings in Pennsylvania show the need for a similar investigation in New York state,' said David Soares, the Albany County DA and president of the District Attorneys Association of the State of New York...." (See "“NY's prosecutors prepped to launch statewide probe into Catholic Church sexual abuse” by Kenneth Lovett & Larry McShane, 8/24/18, NY Daily News [[http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-metro-church-sex-abuse-probe-20180824-story.html]).
A spokesman for the state Catholic Conference headed by Timothy Cardinal Dolan immediately dissembled and sought to remove the focus from the Catholic Church, its pedophile priests and higher-ups, like bishops and cardinals, saying a broader probe of the problem of the sexual abuse of children was necessary. However, the Pennsylvania Grand Jury Report demonstrated that the Catholic Church is unique, and that the presence of pedophilia and the systematic internal conspiracy to cover-up the problem is massive --- both of those facts are doubtless true about New York's Catholic Dioceses, as well.
Wake up Gale. Do you really expect a bunch of pols to take on the church?
ReplyDeleteRESPONSE: THE "PROFILES IN COURAGE" EDITION
ReplyDeleteTO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 6:59 AM"
EVEN THOUGH THE PUBLIC IN NEW YORK STATE, ESPECIALLY CATHOLICS, HAVE ONLY OBLIQUELY LOOKED AT THE PROBLEM OF SEXUAL ABUSE BY PRIESTS AND SOME IN THE HIERARCHY OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, THAT IS STILL PART OF THE "DENIAL" STAGE --- WE ARE ABOUT TO TIP INTO THE "ANGER" STAGE.....
THE "POLITICIANS," AS YOU CALL THEM, ALREADY HAVE SPOKEN OUT TIMIDLY AND IN A MEASURED RESPONSE TO THE AWFUL PENNSYLVANIA REVELATIONS ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THAT STATE --- SOON LEADERS WILL EMERGE IN NEW YORK AND DEMONSTRATE WHAT JOHN F. KENNEDY CALLED "PROFILES IN COURAGE" --- IN ADDITION, SOME MORE LEADERS IN THE CHURCH WILL ALSO STEP FORWARD AND DO THE RIGHT THING, AND JOIN THE FEW THAT HAVE DONE SO ALREADY
The best disinfectant is the bright light of day --- or even a bright, hot "SPOTLIGHT"..... A Pennsylvania-style grand jury investigation of the New York Dioceses' pedophile situation would be a good start. The New York Attorney General and the County DAs look like they are making a good start on that.
"Disinfectant" is not always the answer. Sometimes you just need to throw something in the trash. I mean what exactly are you trying to hang on to? Is it that letter the Pope said he was going to write?
ReplyDeleteI do appreciate the exposure you have given this issue. But the disinfectant was needed 50 years ago.
Hey Gale if the Vatican rids the church of pedophiles just exactly who will be left? Do you really think this is a case of a few bad apples?
ReplyDeleteOften a truth is said in jest.
ReplyDeleteArchbishop Carlo Maria Vigano has detailed personal allegations concerning Pope Francis direct involvement in the pedophile cover up and promoting those who aided in the cover up.
ReplyDeleteWake me up when mass is over
ReplyDeleteWho cares what's left if the Church expels all pedophiles.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you want to be part of an organization that welcomes them?