The tarnished Golden part of the Brooklyn GOP and the 2013 candidates that it selected and pushed forward into the fray have been found wanting in every facet, and from every aspect and vantage
For everybody else who wanted any sort of victory for the Brooklyn GOP and its candidates in 2013 — look in some parallel universe — run a different program in the Matrix — roll back the clocks and calendars to happier times — or do something else equally out-of-the-box that would require large dollops of science fiction and fantasy
[This post has been written with only partial, though substantial, election results on all of the races discussed. The numerical values will be recomputed and revised, where necessary and/or appropriate]
It is now obvious that the real big loser of the NYC Primary on September 9, 2013 was Joe Lhota — however, it took until November 5, 2013 for him and his team of insiders to experience the full impact of their pyrrhic primary victory over John Catsimatidis. Yes, Lhota is a bigger loser than Anthony Weiner; yes a bigger loser than Elliot Spitzer — Either one of those guys can probably get a talk show if they wanted it; for Joe Lhota, probably not.
His total of about 24% of the vote on the Republican and Conservative lines is consistent with the historically low numbers that candidates who run for mayor on both the Republican and Conservative lines have usually obtained. For a fully contested race it was the worst since 1969 (in that election John Marchi in a three-way race received 542,411 votes and 22.7% on the GOP and Conservative Party Lines, when Mayor Lindsay got 42% on the Liberal and other lines, and Mario Procaccino, a conservative type Democrat obtained 36% on the Democrat and other lines).
John Burnett fared even worse than Lhota did, getting under 20% of the vote in his race for Comptroller.
In the race for Brooklyn DA, incumbent DA Charles “Joe” Hynes lost his re-election bid on the Republican and Conservative Party lines. His numbers turned out to be lower than even the sternest critics of his renewed run on the GOP and Conservative Party lines had predicted. With respect to our prediction here on this blog, Hynes mostly did lead the GOP ticket in Brooklyn, even though he received under 26% of the total votes for Brooklyn DA. Even so, he garnered a higher percentage than all but three other GOP candidates in Brooklyn, with only three of the Brooklyn GOP City Council candidates that out-polled him.
As a group, the Brooklyn GOP City Council candidates didn’t do as well as expected, either. The individual results are listed, as follows:
36th Counc Dist: Veronica Thompson under 3% - Loss
43rd Counc Dist: John Quaglione under 37% - “
44th Counc Dist: Joseph Hayon under 20% - “
46th Counc Dist: Anthony Testaverde under 27% - “
47th Counc Dist: Andy Sullivan under 28% - “
48th Counc Dist: David Storobin under 40% - “
From the look of all of the numbers above for all of the municipal offices mentioned above, 2013 was not a banner year for the Kings County Republican Party. However, it must be remembered that any kind of front-loaded top shelf operation for any candidate supported by the Brooklyn GOP was made impossible by the insurgency ignited by State Senator Martin Golden and carried to completion by the so called “Republicans for Change,” who were lined up behind Timothy Cochrane.
It should also be noted that the performances of the candidates supporting and supported by the “Republicans for Change” faction were especially problematic. Those candidates would include John Quaglione, David Storobin and Anthony Testaverde. When one additionally looks at the election day results for Joe Lhota and DA Hynes, both of whom were focal candidates, visibly and closely associated with Marty Golden and the “Republicans for Change” faction, the complete and signal failure of the campaigns fostered by the Golden-related faction of the Brooklyn GOP is completely manifest.
The failures of most of these individual campaigns might have been attributable to the candidates having been damaged fruit from the outset, faulty campaign strategy, tactics and execution, and profound non-support by larger organizations. However, far more burdensome for these campaigns was the negativity and inability of most of the Golden-supported candidates to reintegrate with their colleagues in the mainstream Brooklyn GOP after the 2013 GOP Primary had passed.
That prolonged primary hangover was no doubt directly attributable to the failed attempt of the “Republicans for Change" to pull a belated coup at the GOP County convention in the latter days of September; the flawed conception and execution of which was further exacerbated by an ill-advised lawsuit against the mainstream GOP in October 2013.
As an end-note to all that happened from the early bomb-throwing by Golden against Chairman Craig Eaton through Election Day on November 5th, it should be noted that the most likely consequence of the particular abysmal showings of the “Republicans for Change” candidates is the likelihood of the complete demise of that failed Golden-generated enterprise, as well as the sun-setting on those of its candidates that fail to reintegrate with the mainstream in a suitable and timely fashion.
Going forward, if the Brooklyn GOP wants to serve its Republican registrants and voters, it needs to think well “outside of the box.” The mainstream GOP needs to use this 2013 fiasco as a big stick to beat whatever part of the 2013 “old hands insurgency" that might keep plugging along into the 2014 election cycle. Eaton, Gallo and company need to use all of this as a recruiting tool against all “former establishment challengers” that don’t make amends for what they did to everybody else in 2013.
UPDATE: LATER ELECTION RESULTS FROM CBS NEWS FOR CANDIDATES AND RACES MENTIONED IN POST ABOVE
ReplyDeleteThe figures for the races below were taken from the CBS News website (See “ELECTION RESULTS – NOV. 5, 2013” by CBS News, 11/5/13-11/6/13, CBS New York [http://newyork.cbslocal.com/election-results-nov-5-2013/?state=NY&eid=33031&site=WCBSELN]):
Mayor NYC (99%)
de Blasio, Bill Dem 752,604 73%
Lhota, Joe GOP 249,121 24%
Comptroller NYC (99%)
Stringer, Scott Dem 782,703 81%
Burnett, John GOP 161,608 17%
Dist Atty - Brooklyn (99%)
Thompson, Kenneth Dem 222,348 75%
Hynes, Charles GOP 74,943 25%
City Council - Brooklyn
36th Dist (99%)
Cornegy, Robert Dem 16,422 87%
Foy, Kirsten WF 1,888 10%
Thompson, Veronica GOP 461 2%
43rd Dist (100%)
Gentile, Vincent (i) Dem 12,638 63%
Quaglione, John GOP 7,162 36%
Dwyer, Patrick Grn 342 2%
44th Dist (98%)
Greenfield, David (i) Dem 13,638 82%
Hayon, Joseph GOP 2,990 18%
46th Dist (100%)
Maisel, Alan Dem 19,746 80%
Testaverde, Anthony GOP 4,834 20%
47th Dist (98%)
Treyger, Mark Dem 8,267 71%
Sullivan, Andrew GOP 3,112 27%
Mobley, Connis ScC 224 2%
48th Dist (100%)
Deutsch, Chaim Dem 9,361 55%
Storobin, David GOP 6,645 39%
Oberman, Igor WF 850 5%
Lotovsky, Alexander Oth 138 1%
Gale, I beg to differ with you. The results say nothing about the Brooklyn GOP - the blood is all on the hands of Golden and Kassar. Lets face facts: Eaton and his team backed John C. - Golden, Cockrane and Kassar and their team of hatchetmen/women backed Lhota. Although Cats lost the primary, Lhota's performance post-primary clearly shows that Cats would have done much better and could have been competitive with his wealth, friends and resources; Golden, Cockrane and Kassar backed a slew of candidates for District Leadership - almost all of them didnt even qualify to get on the ballot; Golden, Cockrane and Kassar ran Repulicans for Change candidates, Quaglione, Testaverde, and Storobin and they all imploded...big time...big time enough that I want to scream like Timmy Cockrane.....................; two of the RFC Candidates even work for Golden - even more embarrassing.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Where were all of Golden's new Leaders - Petit, Cheese Guy, etc....didnt see any of them out in the street. Heck, I didnt even see Tim out campaigning. Oh, forgot, he is so impressed with himself that campaiging is beneath him. Guess he spends too much time selling hot dogs....if he makes such a bg deal about wanting to run the GOP, maybe he shoud roll up his sleeves (short as they may be) and work for candidates, help his friends, heck even work the phones.....this is a referendum on Golden and Kassar-they are done-washed up-losers.........
I'm sick of people pining for Cats. From the NY Post: "One of the few Republican incumbents in the City Council survived friendly fire from billionaire supermarket mogul John Catsimatidis to win re-election Tuesday night. Eric Ulrich got by Democrat challenger Lew Simon even though Catsimatidis backed his opponent and financed a $15,000 attack mailing."
DeleteInstead of Cats using his billions to support the "Republican brand," he spends money to support Democrats. F**** him and all who support him.
CLearly, you don't understand the phrase, "Payback is a bitch...." Herr Ulrich backed a coup in QUeens against the Queens GOP Leadership who had backed Cats. They failed, but Ulrich still deserved a large dose of "payback" and the Catman just saw to it that Ulrich got it.
DeleteWhile we're at it, let's see how the "payback ledger" stands in Brooklyn.
Hmmmmm! It looks like there is a very big unpaid balance next to the name of .....
"Hello, Mr Catsimatidis, there is a large unpaid balance in your 'Payback Account' .... Well, sir then I'm glad I brought it to your attention.... Yes, that's right, he is running for re-election in 2014..... Very good, I'll just make a notation that you plan to make your payback some time in 2014...."
And clearly you don't understand the concept of party building. You want primary against someone, fine. Don't hurt the Party you claim to support by supporting a Democrap in the general election because the Republican didn't kiss the correct ass. In this case, Ulrich got the last laugh. Keep wasting time and money with the petty intraparty tit-for-tat squabbling BS.
DeleteNone of what Urich did was "party building" and trying to hurt somebody like Ulrich doesn't necessarily hurt the party.
Delete"In this case, Ulrich got the last laugh...." Where does he (or you) see the humor in any of this?
More important, who gets to have the last laugh in Brooklyn? When will that be and what will be so funny?
By the way, you do know that both of us are really talking about somebody whose real name is not Ulrich.
My original post was about Cats. My point is you keep the seats you have and fight Democrats to take the seats you don't have. It is foolish to go after the precious few sitting Republicans in the general election out of petty revenge. Party housecleaning should be done in the primaries, not the general election. For someone who aspired to be the citywide leader of the Republican Party, Cats should not have been using his money to take a seat away from the Republicans and give it to the Democrats.
DeleteAs to Ulrich's real name, I have no idea what you're babbling about nor do I care.
Let's put it out there. Justifying what was done to Ulrich is to establish a precedent for what people intend to do in spades to Brooklyn's State Senator Marty Golden. John Cats made it clear long before the primary, he was going to remember his friends and take care of business for those who weren't.
DeleteWhat happened to Ulrich in 2013 is a case of "close but no cigar".....
A well-placed Brooklyn Republican said this today, "The money that Catsimatidis is supposed to have put in against Ulrich is his best-spent money on the 2013 elections... too bad he didn't spend more."
Fine. Unseat Golden in the primaries, not the general.
DeleteCats is a dopey cry baby billionaire who cares more about his ego than the GOP. I will give him credit for actually doing what he says for what that's worth.
As to the "well-placed Brooklyn Republican," obviously another in a long list of pinheads who care more about destructive vendettas than the GOP.
Oh, I forgot to mention Big Glenn Nocera - the guy who showed up at the Convention in sneakers and stained clothing. He was a BIG TIME supporter of Lhota and Burnett......Both we BIG TIME losers - great job Glenn - you really shoewed what your group of 60 yr old YRs could do....you were probably the reason they got so little votes....and BTW, Glenn why werent you on stage with Lhota - you talk like you and him are best buds....were u even invited to the Party?
ReplyDeleteKassar, I hear there are jobs at the Bay Ridge Manor....Clorinda just dropped off her resumse - unfortunately it was only two lines. Maybe you could solidify a job there, before Golden realizes the mess you got him into......everyone is talking about how you were the master mind behind the Rep for Change project.....you better get that resume in.....lots of your friends already submitted theres....
ReplyDeleteI Am Shocked At How Poorly John Q Did..A Blow To Golden..
ReplyDeleteThe Quaglione-Gentile results are just about in line with a long-tern down trend against Republican-Conservative Party candidates running for NYC offices in the former Republican stronghold of Bay Ridge, Dyker Heights, Bath Beach and lower Bensonhurst.
DeleteAs the numbers in my “UPDATE” comment above indicate, John Quaglione, running on the Republican, Conservative and Independence lines, received a total of 7162 votes for City Council against Councilman Vincent Gentile, which was just below thirty-six percent (36%) of the total vote. In 2009, Bob Capano, running on the Republican, Conservative and Independence lines, received 8615 votes for City Council against Councilman Vincent Gentile, which was under thirty-nine percent (39%) of the total vote.
Both the Capano and Quaglione campaigns were relatively well-financed and hard fought. Bob Capano had the slight benefit of running on a ticket with Mayor Michael Bloomberg, whereas John Q was saddled with the Republican-Conservative albatross, Joseph Lhota, as the mayoral candidate leading his ticket.
Whether the whole of John Q's candidacy, campaign and Election Day result, standing by itself, is or isn't a blow to State Senator Martin Golden depends on whether he and Jerry Kassar actually worked harder for Quaglione, who is the #2 man on Golden's staff right behind Kassar, than they did for Capano.
Actually, I think John Q's association with Golden was a blow to his campaign --- this was recognized by "JQ's people" late in the campaign, witness Marty Golden's name not appearing on the Quaglione mailings late in the campaign.
ADDENDUM: JUST OVER THE TRANSOM FROM A BAKER STREET IRREGULAR
Delete.... 2009 Capano v. Gentile
--- Bob Capano received 8,911 votes and that comes to 40.3%
Not Bad:
ReplyDeleteAnonymousNovember 3, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Predictions:
Lhota 30% (Lose)
Hynes 40% (Lose)
Quaglione 40% (Lose)
Hayon 25% (Lose)
Testaverde 25% (Lose)
Sullivan 30% (Lose)
Storobin 42% (Lose)
The "take-away" is business cards don't win elections and Hayon is a moron/maroon.
What about the other under-performers, some of whom spent beaucoup $$$$$ on their campaigns ?
DeleteCapano Sought And Had Suppor Of Brooklyn Gop And It's Key Leaders, John Q Did Not Reach Out To Them..
ReplyDeleteThat is a very strange way to approach a general election campaign, isn't it ?
DeleteSo you two are saying that at best, the Brooklyn GOP is worth 3-4 points? Wow, that's extraordinary!
DeleteWhere did I say that ?
DeleteAt any rate, 3-4 points by the active support of the Brooklyn GOP would be significant, if it were so....
Hey Golden - I hope you read this - you are nothing but a washed up disability-collecting police officer who single handedly destroyed the Republican Party in Brooklyn. I am skeptical to say that because I hate to give you that much credit or establish that you have that much control in Brooklyn over anything except your little boy toys John Quaglione (who got absolutely destroyed), Anthony Testaverde (did he even get a single vote) and Joe Lhota (who I voted for despite my doubts). Not to mention Timmy "What would you like on your hotdog today?" Cochrane, who is another bum with no political experience, no respect in the community and most of all no brain. You and your "Republicans for Change" factions stood true to your name - you changed the Republican party and ensured that no Republicans won this time around. I think maybe you should ask Timmy to hire you after you get voted out in 2014.
ReplyDeleteRespect in the community is what most of them seem to be lacking.
ReplyDeleteI think the Golden strategy was brilliant.
ReplyDeleteFind a scandal ridden broken down hack like Hynes who gets run out of the democratic party and latch onto it.
Makes a lot of sense.
Marty really got crushed this time around - hope he finally gets the point that he is not as "powerful" and he once thought he was. Like anonymous said above, all of his puppets - Starting with Timmy Cochrane, and now John Quag, Testaverde, Storobin, Hynes - LOST. Golden is a loser if I have ever seen one. Time to hang em up old man.
ReplyDeleteOh, and I forgot to mention the biggest hag of all, LHOTA!
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Ok Gale, Spin this one:
Documents obtained by JP Updates, show Mr. Hayon ...."
As far as I'm concerned this comment was put here to harass me with reference to an election eve dirty trick that appeared in JP Updates --- the original post's author apparently is a supporter of Councilman Greenfield.
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DeleteI Hear "TOP Republican Leaders" Supported Efforts Against Ulrich...AND All The Stuff That Could Have Been Used, Including Photos, Were Not....Yet.....
ReplyDeleteAs a practical matter, have we heard the last of Joseph Hayon and former State Senator David Storobin. ?
ReplyDeleteA well placed bug picked up a communication indicating these men have run for their last public office.
Hayon is officially done running for office after his embarrassing election results on Tuesday.18% in a conservative leaning district? With receiving matching funds? C'mon...
DeleteStorobin is a different story. I don't think he will run again next year for fear of having 3 losses 3 years in a row. But I can't imagine his ego being subdued enough for him not to attempt a return to political glory down the road.
Hayon's 18% performance has nothing to do with his decision. The lies and invective that were published about him and his campaign also have nothing to do with his decision either. Hayon simply has decided that he can accomplish more in connection to the issues that matter to him most by being more active in grassroots pursuits directly connected to the community where he lives.
DeleteIn the future, he intends to do his work behind the scenes to advance new candidates that reflect a family values social conservatism that is real and to frustrate those politicians who falsely wear that badge or brand, especially those who might operate under the broad banner of a politically contrived "Conservative Party endorsement."
On the other hand, what he considers lies about him have taken their toll on David Storobin. The false picture of him that has been put before the public mostly by his Democrat opponents, and their supporters and secret allies, together with a sense of repetitive betrayals by others who should have fostered his efforts, are central to any decision to withdraw from politics that Storobin might have already made or will make in the near future.
"Repetitive betrayals" notwithstanding, think of the long list of good people that helped Storobin at first that he has burned through with his pattern of abusive behavior, short-changing and using. Some line about reaping what you sow and/or chickens coming home to roost comes to mind as well.
ReplyDeleteFour words: Golden is a scrub.
ReplyDeleteStorobin has no loyalty, decency or respect. He uses people and thinks who the hell he his....good riddance to a man who won by 13 votes, yet if the Dems went thru with their case, they would have won....but they were smart....Lew Fidler didnt want to give up a council seat to be a senator for 10 days....Storobin did because he had no other job...
ReplyDeleteGale,
ReplyDeletePost another piece ASAP.
The comments are getting nutty
These comments are driving me crazy !!
ReplyDeleteAll this blaming and finger pointing.
Wake up !!
Your Republicans in Brooklyn. Youve always been losers and you always will be.
Losers because Marty Golden interferes with any winnable district like Storobin's that the GOP NYS Senate immediately moved two-thirds into a new area for Democrat Simcha Felder.
DeleteGale,
ReplyDeletePlease Im begging you.
Post something before I start barfing !!