tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post6974992255272149913..comments2024-03-29T01:18:48.058-04:00Comments on The Brooklyn & Staten Island Independent GOP Fountainhead: New York Times article just put a fork in the case against Chanel Lewis for the Howard Beach murder of Karina VetranoGalewyn Masseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-28656721418748239622018-12-09T11:09:49.664-05:002018-12-09T11:09:49.664-05:00COMMENT: THE "BEWARE OF FULLER'S SPELUNCE...COMMENT: THE "BEWARE OF FULLER'S SPELUNCEAN HYPOTHETICAL" EDITION<br /><br />THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO MANY CREDIBLE AND A FEW INCREDIBLE SPELUNKERS THAT LEFT REAL EVIDENCE AT THE KARINA VETRANO MURDER SCENE --- AND WHO BEHAVED LIKE THEY MIGHT BE GUILTY OF SOMETHINGGalewyn Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-52106675309908898262018-12-09T10:48:16.805-05:002018-12-09T10:48:16.805-05:00Chanel Lewis was seen at a hospital with a hand in...Chanel Lewis was seen at a hospital with a hand injury the day after the murder of Karina Vetrano. A medical expert said the injury was consistent with a 'boxer's' injury. That seems pretty bad, right? Wrong!<br />The whole of Chanel Lewis' hospital record from the day after he allegedly murdered Karina Vetrano is very EXCULPATORY.<br />Chanel Lewis' hospital record does not show somebody that was in a fight to the death with somebody who was in good physical condition and whose own body showed a furious fight to save her life.<br />That's why the Queens DA wanted the press never to see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-77833762221571231922018-12-09T01:42:41.171-05:002018-12-09T01:42:41.171-05:00Here's a real FACT that should give everybody ...Here's a real FACT that should give everybody pause to question if police detectives had any idea how to secure the crime scene where Karina Vetrano's murdered body was found. In the days following his daughter's murder and HIS being the first to find his daughter's body, Phil Vetrano was allowed to walk around the crime scene, to help look for evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-41077825592642487392018-12-08T19:07:57.597-05:002018-12-08T19:07:57.597-05:00The quote is right, but your description of 't...The quote is right, but your description of 'the 20 year old Black man' isn't complete. He was a twenty year old back person with special needs, who had asked to watch cartoons all night before he made that strange confession. He also left out the part about having to walk halfway across God's creation and remain completely invisible before he could '... beat her to let my emotions out.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-25101197831594293582018-12-08T16:28:22.541-05:002018-12-08T16:28:22.541-05:00"I beat her to let my emotions out".
Th..."I beat her to let my emotions out".<br /><br />That is an exact quote from the confession. Does not sound like something a 20 year old black man would say.<br /><br />ya dig !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-2741027129624264182018-12-08T16:16:32.992-05:002018-12-08T16:16:32.992-05:00The Jon Benet case was known for the DA not going ...The Jon Benet case was known for the DA not going along with the police hunch that the family did it. Not similar in any way to the Vetrano case.<br /><br />Here the DA & Cops colluded to frame a black man who is mentally challenged. The jury saw it. The Judge saw it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-5815725568308869672018-12-08T16:09:05.285-05:002018-12-08T16:09:05.285-05:00RESPONSE: THE "MAYBE, SOMEBODY WILL EXPLAIN T...RESPONSE: THE "MAYBE, SOMEBODY WILL EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU" EDITION<br /><br />TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 12:12 PM"<br /><br />I AM UNCONCERNED ABOUT THE DNA IN THIS PHONY CASE AGAINST CHANEL LEWIS --- THE DEFENSE TEAM BEAT THE PROSECUTION AND THEIR PURPORTED "ROCK SOLID" DNA EVIDENCE AT THE FIRST TRIAL; THEY WILL DO EVEN BETTER REBUTTING THE DNA >>> IF <<< THERE IS ANOTHER TRIAL<br /><br />THE ONLY THING THAT STOPPED A COMPLETE ACQUITTAL OF CHANEL LEWIS WAS HIS ERSATZ CONFESSION --- THAT CONFESSION WILL GET BLOWN UP COMPLETELY --- AGAIN, >>> IF <<< THERE IS A SECOND TRIAL<br /><br />You are right, I don't know any of the DNA evidence from the JonBenet Ramsey case. I was talking about the as yet undisclosed DNA evidence in the Karina Vetrano murder pointing directly at someone that should have been at or near to top of the suspect list from day one. How I compared that to the Jon Benet Ramsey case was this: if there isn't a very strong DNA profile of the person who should have been the early top suspect found on the body of Karina Vetrano and at the crime scene, then a legitimate search or searches for DNA were never conducted in the Vetrano murder investigation. Galewyn Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-87584810811359775062018-12-08T15:12:39.859-05:002018-12-08T15:12:39.859-05:00Poor GM especially at 11:47 the fact that you are ...Poor GM especially at 11:47 the fact that you are trying to compare this to the JonBenet case shows conclusively that you don't know what you're talking about as far as the DNA evidence in this case goes. First of all the defendant's DNA in the Vetrano case wasn't planted, it's not like they took some of his known genetic material and put it on the victim's neck, underneath her fingernails and on her cell phone. That didn't happen. It came up as a match in the lab with a good sized sample. There is no real DNA evidence in the JonBenet case, in fact most of the foreign DNA found on JonBenet was so weak it couldn't even make CODIS until amplification techniques were used, which is why you often hear about "DNA transfer" in that case. In fact in the JonBenet case it's not even certain if any of the foreign DNA belongs to one person and isn't a mixed profile of several different people. That's not the case in the Vetrano case. It is definitively his DNA, which puts him at the crime scene. The three locations of the matching DNA, the hand injury the day of the murder, and the taped confession also distinguish this case from what happened in the JonBenet Ramsey case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-5906936791153344962018-12-08T14:47:13.124-05:002018-12-08T14:47:13.124-05:00RESPONSE: THE "ARE YOU MAD --- NOTHING IS &...RESPONSE: THE "ARE YOU MAD --- NOTHING IS 'ROCK SOLID' IN THIS CASE" EDITION<br /><br />TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 11:12 AM"<br /><br />I AM CONTESTING UNEQUIVOCALLY AND ABSOLUTELY THAT ANY OF THE DEFENDANT'S DNA WAS ACTUALLY "FOUND" AT THE CRIME SCENE OR ON THE VICTIM'S BODY --- NOTE THE WORD THAT >>> YOU <<< USED AND I ADOPTED "CONTESTING" <br /><br />IN EQUAL MEASURE, I DON'T NEED TO CONTEST YOUR BOGUS "ONE IN SIX TRILLION MATCH" ASSERTION <br /> --- NO SUCH THING EXISTS IN THIS CASE OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD OF FORENSIC DNA SAMPLING --- AND WHETHER SOME TECHS MIGHT >>> FIND <<< SOME KIND OF "ONE IN SIX TRILLION" CONVERGENCE THAT CRANKS OUT USING CERTAIN MODELS AND ALGORITHMS, IT IS STILL A MATTER OF SIGNIFICANT DISPUTE AND CONTROVERSY IN THE FIELD OF DNA ANALYSIS<br /><br />Let's start at the beginning. <br /><br />Was any DNA found at the murder scene and/or on the body of Karina Vetrano?<br /><br />Did it belong to one of the top suspects from day one of this investigation ?????<br /><br />AND IF NOT --- WHY NOT --- BECAUSE THEN EVERYTHING IN THIS CASE WOULD BE BOGUS FROM DAY ONE --- JUST LIKE IN THE JONBENET RAMSEY CASE !!!!!<br />Galewyn Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-77866976693624282062018-12-08T14:33:45.099-05:002018-12-08T14:33:45.099-05:00If a District Leader or BoE employee didn't ta...If a District Leader or BoE employee didn't taint the evidence, your audience isn't interested, Gale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-14749418973137988932018-12-08T14:15:10.795-05:002018-12-08T14:15:10.795-05:00Wait! Wa-it! WAAAAAAIT! GM, don't listen to t...Wait! Wa-it! WAAAAAAIT! GM, don't listen to that.<br />Instead listen to Albert Camus, when he tells you, 'The struggle itself ... is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.'<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-47791794549766086602018-12-08T14:12:26.777-05:002018-12-08T14:12:26.777-05:00GM what you’re posting about DNA is tautology mixe...GM what you’re posting about DNA is tautology mixed in with a bunch of tired old tropes. No one is contesting that the DNA found on the victim belongs to the Defendant. It’s a one in six trillion match. Other cases receiving notoriety are those with very weak commingled samples, this is a rock solid match and nothing you write about Watson, Crick, or Jeff Sessions changes that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-7329362742742935922018-12-08T13:50:19.248-05:002018-12-08T13:50:19.248-05:00Gail, you are trying to be Sisyphus when it comes ...Gail, you are trying to be Sisyphus when it comes to 'anyone with a working knowledge' that wants to discredit you.<br />Don't you know that 'anyone with a working knowledge' really means cops and prosecutors, and probably some of them are actively involved in this case against Chanel Lewis.<br />Everybody knows they are cement heads, so screw 'em.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-8523987146299213982018-12-08T13:39:58.464-05:002018-12-08T13:39:58.464-05:00REPONSE: THE "VERY UNSAFE TO BE PLACE" E...REPONSE: THE "VERY UNSAFE TO BE PLACE" EDITION<br /><br />TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 9:58"<br /><br />ARE YOU CRAZY !!! THE CLASS WAS FULL OF PRE-MEDS; IF THEY EVEN SUSPECTED THAT YOU MIGHT BE HIGHER UP IN THE CLASS RANKINGS, YOU MIGHT HAVE A CONTRACT PUT OUT ON YOU<br /><br />My good friend at the time Bob Andina got an "A" in that course --- now he's a big cardiologist out west.....<br /><br />I should have studied harder; instead, I had to go to law school and wound up as a trial lawyer, before working for judges and justices.Galewyn Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-81168238086568810332018-12-08T12:58:03.748-05:002018-12-08T12:58:03.748-05:00Yes GM word is you were top in the class. Yes GM word is you were top in the class. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-45944022324196799052018-12-08T12:49:42.912-05:002018-12-08T12:49:42.912-05:00RESPONSE: THE "WATSON & CRICK RIP" E...RESPONSE: THE "WATSON & CRICK RIP" EDITION<br /><br />TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 8:25 AM"<br /><br />MY APOLOGIES TO JAMES WATSON, WHO I DO BELIEVE STILL LIVES..... ALSO MY APOLOGIES TO THE MANY SCIENTISTS BEFORE WATSON & CRICK, WHO HAD HELPED DEFINE AN DESCRIBE DNA BEFORE THEIR "DOUBLE HELIX" WAS PUT BEFORE THE PUBLIC..... LET'S JUMP AHEAD FORTY OR FIFTY YEARS TO THE REAL WORK STUDYING THE HUMAN GENOME..... THAT'S THE REAL SCIENCE PART OF THIS. THE FORENSIC USE OF "DNA" IS APPLIED SCIENCE; AND IN MANY INSTANCES, IT IS BADLY APPLIED SCIENCE. <br /><br />THE FORENSIC USE OF DNA IN THE VETRANO MURDER INVESTIGATION IS THIS BRANCH OF APPLIED SCIENCE AT ITS WORST --- AND IN THIS CASE, INTENTIONALLY AND PROBABLY CRIMINALLY MOTIVATED<br /><br />Nobody has mentioned that forensic DNA "being tested" goes through computer-based analytics, and many of those programs are quite controversial and viewed by many as unreliable. It is so bad that the former law & order Attorney General of the United States, Jeff Sessions, fretted that the entire forensic DNA regime underlying thousands of Justice Department cases was in danger of crumbling. What more does one need to know ?????<br /><br />BTW, something else that I do know is that the science of human genetics has been hurtling forward with the speed and force of a Saturn rocket. So what I learned in my advanced genetics course as a biology major at Brooklyn College, so many years ago, is pretty much stone age stuff.Galewyn Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-75454465151419625892018-12-08T12:06:44.987-05:002018-12-08T12:06:44.987-05:00I dont know if GM understands DNA but Gm seems to ...I dont know if GM understands DNA but Gm seems to understand dirty cops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-24094053631508373502018-12-08T11:25:31.280-05:002018-12-08T11:25:31.280-05:00GM you don't understand DNA, that is clear in ...GM you don't understand DNA, that is clear in your writing. Until you do, anything you post about this case is going to leave you totally discredited to anyone with a working knowledge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-21456552741374924032018-12-08T11:10:21.843-05:002018-12-08T11:10:21.843-05:00RESPONSE: THE "REAL DNA STORY IS YET TO BE TO...RESPONSE: THE "REAL DNA STORY IS YET TO BE TOLD" EDITION<br /><br />TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 3:57 AM"<br /><br />HOW COME YOU KEEP REPEATING THE SAME OLD DNA LINE OVER, AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN ??? I DON'T BUY IT; THE JURY DIDN'T BUY IT; THE TRIAL JUDGE PROBABLY DIDN'T LIKE IT; AND AS A RESULT THE PROSECUTION AND EVEN THE VETRANOS SAW THAT IT WASN'T FLYING WITH THE JURY AND DIDN'T OPPOSE THE DEFENSE MISTRIAL MOTION<br /><br />First, you were completely wrong when you said, "... his genetic fingerprints are all over the crime scene which means he was there..." There was lots of DNA all over the crime scene, but only three of the samples fit a "DNA profile" consistent with the defendant. However, some or all of those three "profiles" might have been arrived at by discredited methods and analytics.<br /><br />Second, for a fuller context to the whole DNA story in this case --- most of the DNA samples found at the crime scene did not fit the defendant's profile, but almost certainly did fit the "profile" of another suspect --- somebody who was actually accused "on the record" of corrupting the crime scene. The prosecution has fought hard to keep all this other DNA evidence under wraps and away from the defense team's DNA experts.<br /><br />Third, according to the very detailed NY Times article the jury did vote 12-0 to acquit on the sex crimes charge --- a complete rejection of the prosecutions "theory of the case" that this murder was associated with a sexual assault --- since you are a disciple of the "DNA as proof" school, there was NO DNA EVIDENCE for any "sexual assault".....<br /><br />Fourth, even the 7-5 vote to convict on the murder charge was not a strong vote and based on the so-called "confession." --- Watch what the defense does to the isolation room, sleep-deprived, "cartoons" confession at the re-trial. Maybe, NYPD Detective Barry Brown will even be called in as a hostile defense witness next time around >>> to give the next jury a detailed description of the day-long, isolated and un-videoed custodial interrogation of this mentally challenged "suspect" prior to his breaking down and giving a confession >>> so he could go home after making restitution. Galewyn Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-52581981496533964702018-12-08T10:08:11.848-05:002018-12-08T10:08:11.848-05:00When are we going to get back to blaming people fo...When are we going to get back to blaming people for destroying the Brooklyn Republican Party?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-23746132147955911652018-12-08T09:17:01.079-05:002018-12-08T09:17:01.079-05:005:33 maybe someone can buy you “hooked on phonics”...5:33 maybe someone can buy you “hooked on phonics” or some other learning aid so you can understand what the Times article is saying while you’re trying to read it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-4130186411786161982018-12-08T06:57:43.435-05:002018-12-08T06:57:43.435-05:00But his genetic fingerprints are all over the crim...But his genetic fingerprints are all over the crime scene which means he was there. His genetic material so basically goes back to DNA. His DNA underneath the victim’s fingernails, on her neck, and on her phone. This places him at the crime scene. Seven jurors were ready to convict while the other five tried to reenact the OJ verdict.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-78291806663055261952018-12-08T02:48:09.748-05:002018-12-08T02:48:09.748-05:00RESPONSE: THE "WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN K...RESPONSE: THE "WHO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN KEEPING THE LID ON THIS ???" EDITION<br /><br />TO: "ANONYMOUS SAID... AT 9:55 PM"<br /><br />YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT (AND YOU ARE FORGIVEN FOR RUNNING OFF TO STEVE WITT WITH THE DA CANDIDATE STUFF).<br /><br />IF YOU TAKE "... AT 8:55 PM" LITERALLY, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT FACTS YOU HAVE TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT. THEY ARE RIGHT AND THAT IS ALL THAT THERE IS TO IT<br /><br />An interesting parallel is the language of Cathy Vetrano, who late in February 2018 was reported as saying that the case against Chanel Lewis was 'not racial' while referring to him as an 'animal'..... <br /><br />She also said that anybody who might stand up to defend Chanel Lewis was "delusional" --- Okay, possibly the family and East New York activists, but the defense lawyers too ???<br /><br />It's not delusional to wonder why Chanel Lewis doesn't appear on any video tape on his long walk from the Essex Street apartment in East New York to the spot on the Queens side of the inlet/creek where the murder took place; and that would have been followed by a reverse trip with an injury sufficient for a hospital visit, if you believe the cops and the prosecution. The police theory tries to explain it all away by saying he took some path next to the Belt Parkway, but then he would have had to go over the highway bridge over Betts Creek, as well. More important, nobody has explained why their isn't a sign of him on any of the many security cameras at the Gateway Center Mall, it's the biggest mall in Brooklyn and almost completely astride any route he might have taken, especially if he came down Erskine Avenue as suggested by the cops.<br />Galewyn Masseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210379476512207622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-3308643463670493732018-12-08T02:11:24.343-05:002018-12-08T02:11:24.343-05:00Does 8:55 think this is an election? Seven voted t...Does 8:55 think this is an election? Seven voted to convict means no conviction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3872239785607728837.post-32906677843837824752018-12-08T00:55:30.642-05:002018-12-08T00:55:30.642-05:00Seven, nine, ten, what is the point?
You need 12 ...Seven, nine, ten, what is the point?<br /><br />You need 12 to convict. They never came close to convicting Lewis. The DA and the family wanted a mistrial and they got it. They also got 400k in a go fund me account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com